[nafex] how to keep squirrels of trees

Naomi Counides naomi at oznayim.us
Mon Dec 2 21:03:01 EST 2013


I do have footies.  The bugs bit through them.  I have the surround.  That
did not do much either.  I have not tried them together.  I have also used
baggies and pheromones.  We have some tough moths here. 
Naomi


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[mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of david liezen
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 6:39 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [nafex] how to keep squirrels of trees

Naomi,
Have you tried Footies soaked and dried in Surround/kaolin? I order mine
from the Home Orchard Society in Portland, Oregon. You can find and order
'em on line. I just have to get them on the fruit at the same time they need
to be thinned - those that need thinning - and get them off about two weeks
before picking. They have cut my losses from codling worms to about 10%. 

Granted, this requires some hours each May/June, but I need never spray.
Glad for you squirrels are ignorant of your setting; may that remain so.

Dave Liezen


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> From: naomi at oznayim.us
> To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:39:47 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nafex] how to keep squirrels of trees
>
> I came along and put up a epicurean eatery. This drew the denizens of 
> destruction to the area. A few might have been there before. They 
> would have scrounged the meager pickings and moved on. Instead they 
> are now swarming into my 3 star bistro of bounty and feasting freely 
> on the fancy fare. The mangy mafia are less obliging than the human 
> tithers who bore that name. These furry felons take all. My planning, 
> investment and industry come to naught as all are despoiled by the
rampaging rodents.
>
> My choices are 3..To continue to serve an increasing population of 
> gobbling gangsters.....To uproot and annihilate my planting, dooming 
> myself to the stale and limited varieties of the local produce 
> purveyor, aka mega market chain of charmless chow.... to seek remedy 
> by protecting what is mine by intent and effort. To reestablish my claim
to the top of the food chain.
> This produce is MINE. Interlopers proceed at your peril. Or in the 
> jargon of my locale SSS
>
> Actually for various reasons I do not have squirrels. But I do have 
> coddling moths and around here they operate on a no share basis also. 
> I learned the hard way that half measures would not work. I have just 
> transferred my attitude, with some humor I hope, to the squirrel
discussion.
> Naomi
>
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> [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of sherwin
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 4:10 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nafex] how to keep squirrels of trees
>
> On 12/2/2013 11:27 AM, Dr. Lucky Pittman wrote:
>> I've used the peanut butter/PoP bonbons on several occasions when 
>> squirrels were digging up oak and pecan/hickory seedlings in my 
>> nursery
> area.
>> Depredation ceased immediately on all occasions.
>> I've never seen a dead squirrel from PB/PoP - and from my 
>> medical/physiology background, I can't imagine how PoP would kill a 
>> squirrel - but they have worked - at least in my perception.
>> However, I wouldn't count on them as a reliable deterrent against 
>> squirrels ravaging fruit or nut crops.
>> Diligence in trapping/terminating or shooting the vermin is 
>> tantamount to success.
>>
>> If you can't bear the thought of terminating the bushy-tailed tree 
>> rats, so be it. Not everyone can do it.
>> Far too many folks are living in a warm-fuzzy Disneyfied world, 
>> expecting sweetness and light and 'sharing the bounty' from their 
>> wildlife 'friends'; but the critters don't understand that concept.
> Maybe, someone will decide to get rid of your 'poodle-rat'.
> Sticking a label on these animals does not diminish their worth.
>
> I'm not ready to share any of my fruit with any critter, but I try to 
> understand we humans have invaded their turf, a two way street. I do 
> my best to get rid of them without killing them.
> Some people kill squirrels for food, but that's another matter.
>
>
>>
>> Yes, wildlife biologists do, on occasion, 'relocate' members of 
>> extant species in efforts to re-establish them in localities where 
>> they were once present, but across-the-board, they condemn relocation 
>> of nuisance members of non-threatened species, for a variety of 
>> reasons which have previously been detailed in this thread.
>>
>> Lucky
>>
>>
> By the way, I have a couple of neighbors I would like to relocate, and 
> they are certainly not a threatened species.
>
> Sherwin in Morton Grove
>
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