[NAFEX] Elaeagnus propagation & goumi/autumn olive

Hector Black hblack1925 at fastmail.fm
Sun Jan 30 18:51:01 EST 2011


John, the Goumi is difficult to propagate, but does graft well to autumn olive.  There may be some suckering below the graft.  Autumn olives, on the other hand, are easy.  We stick twigs about 6-12"
dormant in semi shade and keep them watered till they show growth of an inch or so, to indicate they are rooted.  Good luck!     Hector
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John S 
  To: North American Fruit Explorers 
  Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 5:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Elaeagnus propagation & goumi/autumn olive


        I understand that the Elaeagnus can be propagated by rooting stem cuttings, but have not had success with that myself.  I think the percentage of cuttings that would root would not be very high, due, in part, to the wood being very hard.  I intend to experiment more with Autumn Olives propagation using green wood cuttings this year.

        I'm hoping to graft some goumi to autumn olive rootstock at some point.  Seedlings are easy to come by and I'm going to try top working as well.

        Thanks to all that commented - it was helpful.  



        --- On Sun, 1/30/11, Leslie Moyer <unschooler at lrec.org> wrote:


          From: Leslie Moyer <unschooler at lrec.org>
          Subject: Re: [NAFEX] MisIdentification: Goumi vs. Autum Olive
          To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
          Date: Sunday, January 30, 2011, 1:15 PM


          That's a bummer as I just ordered two goumis from Raintree late last fall!!  I do have a spring-fruiting goumi that I got from One Green World about 4 years ago, for what that's worth....  (And it is delicious, by the way--one of my favorite fruits!)  I'm growing it in NE Oklahoma and I have to keep it watered here, but it's doing OK.  It put on a lot of new growth last year, despite a drought.  I think it would do better if I moved it somewhere that it would get some afternoon shade.  I hope to propagate it this year (for my own use)--does anyone know offhand the best way and time to do that?


          --Leslie



          On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:24 AM, John S wrote:


                   I've twice now planted so-called goumis from reputable North Wast mail-order nurseries, grown them out and upon fruiting, discovered them to be fall fruiting Autumn Olives instead of the spring fruiting Goumis.  It is easy to tell the difference from the appearance and timing of the fruit.

                  Today I received the 2011 print catalog from Raintree and found them using a picture of Autumn Olives for Goumis and the description indicating that goumis fruit in August instead of the correct timing of "spring".  I go on-line and find that the on-line picture of goumi is, instead, a picture of red fruited Cornelian Cherry. 





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