[NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 94, Issue 21 (re: persimmon species)

Steven Covacci filtertitle at aol.com
Mon Nov 22 14:54:47 EST 2010


Hi Mr. Lehman,

Thank you very much for this information: I am looking forward to growing some D. rhombifolia then; do you have a recommended source - there are some sources for seed and seedlings online.  As for D. lotus, now I recall you having once mentioning that to me but I forgot - the fruit, from photos I've seen, look so good.  Well, what I'll do then is plant one in a corner where it does not expend meaningful space and multi-graft it with the many seedlings I have and then, in the future, identify the least unpleasantly-flavored fruiting limb and select it (more as a novelty - sort of like my plantings of various Crataegus, native Malus spp., and Viburnum spp, to name just a few).  Good for a couple re-tries per year.

I had a feeling that D. texana (which I falsely called black sapote) would be excellent.  Is its flavor similar to that of D. virginiana, or does it have its own flavor, such as D. kaki vs D. virginiana?

 

 


 Thanks,
Steve

 

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   1. [ARTICLE] Biodiversity gives big boost to agricultural

      output: study (Douglas Woodard)

   2. Self-fertile Meader A. arguta Male? (John S)

   3. Re: Any reviews on flavor characteristics of these	persimmons

      spp.: D... (Jwlehman at aol.com)

   4. Re: Self-fertile Meader A. arguta Male? (Hal Love)

   5. Scionwood wanted (Lee Reich)

   6. Seeking a New Membership Chair for NAFEX (Natelson, Ethan, M.D.)





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Message: 1

Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:21:09 -0500

From: Douglas Woodard <dwoodard at becon.org>

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Subject: [NAFEX] [ARTICLE] Biodiversity gives big boost to

	agricultural	output: study

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I expect this has some relevance to fruit crops.

See

<http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/national/news/20101117p2a00m0na009000c.html> 





Doug Woodard

St. Catharines, Ontario





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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 17:10:47 -0800 (PST)

From: John S <swim_at_svc at yahoo.com>

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Subject: [NAFEX] Self-fertile Meader A. arguta Male?

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I've recently come across some information claiming that A. arguta 'Meader' 

(male) is self-fertile and produces fruit without another pollinator as well as 

pollinating other female kiwis.? Frankly, I don't believe it but there is at 

least one company selling this variety making that claim and some other sources 

supporting this on the web.



Anybody here have the facts?? I realize that kiwi pollination is somewhat 

atypical as apparently fruit production can take place for some varieties when 

pollinated cross species.? Any solid info would be appreciated.



thanks



John









      

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Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 20:22:20 EST

From: Jwlehman at aol.com

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Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Any reviews on flavor characteristics of these

	persimmons spp.: D...

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Hi Steve,



> 

> Has anyone here tasted the fruit of: date-plum (Diospyros lotus), I've 

> tasted quite a few D. lotus. Never tasted one that I particularly liked. Low 

> sugar and flavor isn't particularly inviting. diamond-leaf/princess 

> persimmon (D. rhombifolia), uncommon;  (D. texana) it is better than lotus for 

sure 

> but not as good as kaki, also very small, for those who live in Texas and 

> the vicinity? I've tasted the black sapote (D. digyna) at the Fruit & Spice 

> Park south of Miami, FL and another Botanical Garden in FL. It is better 

> than either lotus or texana, very large and is said to make good milk 

> shakes. The three trees at Fruit & Spice Park were blown over in Hurricane 

Andrew 

> about 6 years ago and no longer exist.    

>  



Jerry

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 04:37:40 +0000 (UTC)

From: Hal Love <lovehd at comcast.net>

To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>

Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Self-fertile Meader A. arguta Male?

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 05:30:48 -0500

From: Lee Reich <lreich at hvc.rr.com>

To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>

Subject: [NAFEX] Scionwood wanted

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Does anybody have a couple of scions of Attika and/or Regina sweet cherry that 

they'd like to share?



Lee Reich, PhD

http://www.leereich.com/

http://leereich.com/blog.html.



Books by Lee Reich:

A Northeast Gardener's Year

The Pruning Book

Weedless Gardening

Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden

Landscaping with Fruit













On Nov 16, 2010, at 10:46 AM, William C. Garthright wrote:



> 

>> I have Brown Rot completely gone from all my 25 stone fruit trees using a few 

sprays of propiconazole , Monterey Fungi Fighter from Jungs. 

http://www.jungseed.com/dp.asp?pID=50291&c=218&p=Fungi-Fighter+Systemic+Fungicide+%28Qt%29

> 

> 

> Thanks, Grover!  I'll give that a try next year.

> 

> And yes, I'm going to try to thin heavily next year.  I always try, but the 

fruit is so tiny then that it looks thinner than it really is. And I hate to 

throw away potential fruit (even when I give almost all of it away, since I grow 

far more than I can possibly eat myself).

> 

> This year, too, I left a lot of fruit to try to slow down the growth of my 

trees. Everything is pretty crowded here, and I've been trying to keep my trees 

small. But next year, I'm going to thin heavily, so I can compare the 

difference. Well, I'm going to TRY to do that, anyway.

> 

> :-) 

> 

> Thanks again.

> 

> Bill

> Lincoln, NE (zone 5)

> 

> http://garthright.blogspot.com/

> 

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 09:58:18 -0600

From: "Natelson, Ethan, M.D." <ENatelson at tmhs.org>

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Subject: [NAFEX] Seeking a New Membership Chair for NAFEX

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Dear Group,



     After many years of exemplary service to NAFEX, Jill Vorbeck is stepping 

down from her position of membership chair, and we are seeking her replacement.  

This is one of the few positions within NAFEX that carries a stipend, albeit 

modest and full reimbursement for expenses.  The current stipend is $1.50 per 

membership/year as determined by the membership numbers at the summer issue.  A 

brief description of some of the duties of the position includes the following:





1.      Collect and deposit membership dues and update the member's subscription 

expiration date in the membership file as well as process change of address 

notices and maintain an accurate physical and e-mail (where provided) address of 

all members.







2.      Send renewal reminder postcards in the quarter the membership expires 

(NAFEX will reimburse for postage and printed postcards).







3.      At the end of each quarter, provide the publisher with notification of 

how many issues to print (this has been modified, since only one issue, rather 

than four, will be printed as hard copy, each year, with the others sent by 

e-mail and perhaps a few by snail mail) and prepare bulk mailing labels.  Also 

send a file of active US members to the mailing center for the bulk mailing 

(deb at assembleandmailgroup.com<mailto:deb at assembleandmailgroup.com>).  Receive 

and package and label the foreign and Canadian issues and send to Johnson & 

Hayward, the freight consolidating service in New Jersey for additional bulk 

mailing.







4.      Handle general correspondence concerning subscriptions, dues 

reconciliation, complaints, etc.







5.      Work with Jackie Kuehn, our editor, and other officers and key 

leadership members as well as the people supervising our website.







6.      When possible, attend our annual meeting and participate in our Board 

discussions.







     It is difficult to put into this brief description all of the detail that 

would eventually require a phone conversation with Jill to understand fully.  We 

basically need a person that is computer literate and can maintain good records 

and is willing to help NAFEX in making the change in Pomona to an expanded 

on-line status and the growing pains this will entail.  If you are interested, 

please contact Felix Cooper (cooperoso at hotmail.com<mailto:cooperoso at hotmail.com>) 

or myself (natelson at pipeline.com<mailto:natelson at pipeline.com>) or Jill (for 

further details of the current duties) at vorbeck at csj.net<mailto:vorbeck at csj.net>).







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