[NAFEX] Toka?

Ed Fackler ed.fackler at gmail.com
Sun Mar 14 09:38:58 EDT 2010


Steve:

    Toka requires pollination from another of Hansens plums like Pipe Stone,
Waneta, Superior, etc.

    And I totally agree that it is simply wonderful, but I certainly would
not call its flavor "bubble gum-like"....far better, complex yet delicately
sweet.

ed....with a Toka tree in him front yard....12' from the front door!!!

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 8:43 AM, loneroc <loneroc at countryspeed.com> wrote:

> My Toka is relatively shy bearing.  I think I have adequate pollination
> here, too, since most of my other plums bear to the point of branch sagging
> and breaking.  Without massive thinning some of the trees bear utterly
> insipid fruit.  One year my Toka bore a half dozen fruit.  They were twice
> the size of normal.  Seeing all that tree distilled into a teeny set of
> fruit reminded me of those cartoons where they show you a behind the scenes
> look at a bowling alley and each pin is turned from a log, painted and set.
> No sense in using 'em twice.
>
> Steve H.  SW WI
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Demmon" <mdemmon at gmail.com>
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 4:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] 'Bubblegum' plums?
>
>
> Oh god. The first time I tasted a Toka plum I thought I'd died and
> gone to heaven. Definitely my favorite plum as grown here in se MI,
> barring the natives which can have an even better flavor. Or much
> worse, depending on the tree. ;)
>
> They are small, but I actually like that better in a plum. I like
> plums that are like big cherries you can fit in your mouth in one
> bite. The only problem I have with them is that somebody decided they
> taste like bubblegum and now I think of that every time I eat one and
> it tastes a little bit like that. And it did not before. Can have a
> strong cherry flavor.
>
> I don't have one planted yet, but the farmer I buy them from describes
> it as shy-bearing compared to his other plums. He grows only japanese
> and hybrid plums. I'm curious how it would do if pollinated by a
> native plum. I believe it is a hybrid.
>
> -matt
> se MI z5
>
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 11:04 AM, William C. Garthright
> <billg at inebraska.com> wrote:
> >
> >> 'Bubblegum' is some marketer's idea of a better name than 'Toka', which
> >> is the older name of this cultivar. You could ask people their opinions
> >> of the flavor of 'Toka' since it's the same thing.
> >
> >
> > My Toka plums, which bore fruit for the first time last year, were
> > smaller than the other plums I've got, not much bigger than the wild
> > plums around here. (Maybe I should have thinned them.) They didn't look
> > as nice as the other plums, either,... but they were easily the
> > best-tasting. I was very happy with them.
> >
> > Luckily, they didn't taste the SLIGHTEST bit like bubblegum, either.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Bill
> > Lincoln, NE (zone 5)
> >
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