Brungardt, Sam (MPCA)
Sam.Brungardt at state.mn.us
Tue Jul 13 11:08:15 EDT 2010
There is a report in New York Berry News, "Elderberry Research and Production in Missouri", on an on-going research project, at http://www.fruit.cornell.edu/Berries/specialtyfru%20pdf/elderberrymissouri.pdf. At the end of the article are listed a number of publications and articles that would be of interest also. -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, Minn. (USDA hardiness zone 4b)
From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of jelie at new.rr.com
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:10 PM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Elders
Caren, There are some nice varieties of elders out there. The European varieties (sambucus nigra) and the American varieties (sambucus nigra var. canadensis) both have some outstanding cultivars. I would think that both would be readily available to you in QC.
Some American varieties: Nova, Johns, Adam, and York
The European varieties are more numerous and varied: Goldbeere (gold colored fruit, Samdal (of Danish origin), Korsor, Alesso, Black Beauty (dark leaves with typical structure, pink flowers), Black Lace(dark lacey foliage with pink flowers), Laciniata (Green lacey leaved), variegated, and Haschberg.
Here is a pdf file on elderberries from New York state:
I am in the Green Bay, Wisconsin area which is on the border for zones 4 and 5. So far, the only problems I have had with them are a few cane borers. Mine are quite productive. My wife and I haven't used the flowers for anything but love the berries for syrup and jelly. Propagation by cuttings in the spring has been pretty easy.
Best of luck,
Green Bay WI
---- Caren Kirk <quirky at videotron.ca> wrote:
> I just returned from a trip back home to the UK where I totally overdosed on Elderflower EVERYTHING (cordial, syrup, even eldeerflower cheesecake). I literally couldn't get enough, everywhere we went someone was getting me to taste their homemade products.
> I've always been a fan of elderberry juice, so now I am convinced that I want to try planting them here to see if I can reap the benefits of both the flowers and the berries.
> I thought I had an elder growing wild in the wet area at the back of my lot, which I had never really investigated much . It certainly has very similar flowers, however their scent seems nothing like that delicious fragrance of the flowers I've been enjoying in the UK. However I may have missed their peak at the beginning of the season. The shrub is about 6 to 7ft very "leggy" and growing in a very wet site under other taller trees. Not sure if it bears black berries but if so these don't seem to be very popular with the birds.
> Does anybody have experience with elders for their flowers or berries? Could you help me in identifying my plant? Could anyone suggest which elders might be good for flower and fruit production for zone 3/ 4 (for example is Sambucus Canadiensis OK)?
> Any advice gratefully appreciated.
> Caren Kirk
> St. Jerome, QC
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