[NAFEX] Growing blueberries in alkaline soil - well, actually in bales of peat moss

John S swim_at_svc at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 25 23:57:41 EDT 2010


Naomi,  How about growing them in pots?  Bb's are one small fruit that does well this way and you can start off with the soil of choice.  I have about 30 plants in pots and have berries go to waste because we can't use them all.  Every year I mulch the pot with about a one inch layer of new peat/sand mix.  

John



--- On Wed, 8/25/10, Naomi Counides <naomi at oznayim.us> wrote:

From: Naomi Counides <naomi at oznayim.us>
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Growing blueberries in alkaline soil - well, actually in bales of peat moss
To: "'North American Fruit Explorers'" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 3:06 PM




 


 

 

 

 

 







I pretty near did.  10 bales in a 7
by 5 area. 

Naomi 

   





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From:
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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010
1:02 PM

To: ' North
 American Fruit Explorers '

Subject: [NAFEX] Growing
blueberries in alkaline soil - well,actually in bales of peat moss 



   

Naomi, 

Have you considered
growing ‘em in a bale of peat moss?  Seems like it’s worked OK
for folks in CO with alkaline soil. 

http://frontrangefoodgardener.blogspot.com/2010/01/blueberry-growing-intense-in-colorado.html 

   

And here’s
Pete Tallman’s PowerPoint presentation from the 2009 NAFEX meeting: 

http://home.comcast.net/~ptallman/ColoradoBlueberries.keyhandout.pdf 

   

Lucky 

   





From:
nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Naomi Counides

Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010
1:16 PM

To: ' North
 American Fruit Explorers '

Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Ka-Bluey
blueberry 





   

No.. It gives me some direction and some
hope.  I have tried blueberries here and failed a few times.  The
soil is alkaline and the water is hard so more alkaline.  Other plants do
well but not blueberries.  I used peat moss and sulfur copiously.  I
had gotten to the “why fight it if it does not want to live”. 
But we do have hot summers and would have high soil temps.. so mulch, which I
have not done could be the answer.  I have plenty of goat pooped on
alfalfa hay.  I could try blueberries again. 

Naomi 









From:
nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Ed Fackler

Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010
11:42 AM

To: North
 American Fruit Explorers

Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Ka-Bluey
blueberry 



   

I don't know, but I doubt
it.  I think the one thing that most folks overlook is the absolute need
for heavy (and annual) application of mulch.  For that matter, Jim
Ballington (breeder from NC State) once told me that he thought excessively
high soil temperatures were as damaging to blueberries as high pH soils. 
Here we have soils which are naturally around 6.2 to 6.5 and with heavy mulch
blueberries do fine.  While at Rocky I had both Colville 
and Blue Ray which are now over 30 years old and have never ever had anything
done except heavy annual mulching.



This is likely more comments than you wanted to hear!!!



ed 



On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Naomi Counides <naomi at oznayim.us> wrote: 





Any chance it tolerates alkaline soil?    

Naomi  


Idaho 









From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]
On Behalf Of Ed Fackler

Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010
9:56 AM 







To: North
 American Fruit Explorers

Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Ka-Bluey
blueberry 











  

The breeder kept
it due to its complex flavor.  Ka-Bluey had some (unknown to me...likely
stem scar) characteristic which made it commercially unacceptable.



And no it was not released under another name.



ed 



On Wed, Aug 25,
2010 at 10:18 AM, Melissa Kacalanos <mijwiz at yahoo.com> wrote: 


 
  
  I'd dismissed
  the catalog description as the usual catalog hyperbole too. It's interesting
  to read that it might actually be true.

  

  The only info I can find about this variety is from Gurneys/Henry Fields. Was
  it originally released under a different name?

  

  I don't understand why the breeder "kept it strictly for hybridizing
  purposes" if the flavor is so great.

  

  Melissa

  

  --- On Sun, 8/22/10, Ed Fackler <ed.fackler at gmail.com> wrote: 
  

  From: Ed Fackler <ed.fackler at gmail.com>

  Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Ka-Bluey blueberry 
  
  

  To: " North American Fruit Explorers "
  <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org> 
  
  Date: Sunday,
  August 22, 2010, 10:54 AM 
  
  Mark:

  

       It was released from U. Ark.  Actually my wife
  discovered it when we visited Clarksville 
  in 2003 or 2004.  The breeder John Clark kept it strictly for
  hybridizing purposes as it possesses a complex sweet flavor which has slight
  peach-like characteristics.  Personally I've not been able to pick up
  this peach flavor, but it is complex and is the finest flavored blueberry
  I've ever eaten.  It also is amongst the earliest to mature (June 1-15
  here in S. Indiana ).

  

       Hope this helps.

  

  ed 
  
  On Sun, Aug 22,
  2010 at 10:47 AM, Mark Angermayer <hangermayer at isp.com>
  wrote: 
  Ka-Bluey
  blueberry:

  

  Has anyone tried this blueberry sold by the Gurneys/Henry Fields

  conglomerate?  I'm wondering if it's just a common cultivar they slapped
  a

  fancy name on.  However, I see that its got Ed Fackler's endorsement as
  the

  best blueberry he's ever tasted.

  

  Mark Angermayer

  KS 
  
  
  
 






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