[NAFEX] Russian olives
lreich at hvc.rr.com
Fri Dec 4 09:45:23 EST 2009
I soaked the seeds for almost week, with daily water changes, and the
sprouts have practically jumped out of the seeds! I potted them up and
I'll keep them in the greenhouse. I would have preferred it if they
had waited until spring to germinate.
I got just about 100% germination. Hopefully, there'll be some
variation in the King Red, with at least one surviving summers and
Lee Reich, PhD
Books by Lee Reich:
A Northeast Gardener's Year
The Pruning Book
Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
Landscaping with Fruit
On Oct 31, 2009, at 9:16 PM, <jelie at new.rr.com> <jelie at new.rr.com>
> Hey Lee,
> I discovered an omission. I failed to mention that I placed the
> previously soaked seeds in the plastic bag with a damp paper towel
> and then placed that in the REFRIGERATOR.
> Jim Elie
> ---- jelie at new.rr.com wrote:
>> Hey Lee,
>> Sure, no problem with sending some seeds your way. Just send your
>> address to me outside of the listserv and I will get them in the
>> I have to admit that I got the idea to order some igde/senjed fruit
>> from the Plants for a Future website. There was some discussion on
>> whether they were actually elaeagnus or some other fruit so I
>> decided I would check it out for myself. I found they were in fact
>> elaeagnus and knew I would plant out a few. The soaking regimen
>> was roughly that recommended for apple pippins by Phil Forsline of
>> the USDA. I soaked the seeds for about 4-6 days (sorry, wasn't
>> keeping records) while repeating water changes. I then placed them
>> in with a damp paper towel in a plastic bag and monitored. I
>> periodically disinfected them with a 1:10 bleach solution as
>> needed. At around 3 months I started planting them out but had no
>> germination in the refrigerator up to that time. A few that
>> remained were germinating in the refrigerator at around four
>> months. I transplanted the rest of the seeds outdoors and have had
>> good success with the seedlings coming up with no noticeable signs
>> of disease
>> pests so far.
>> My Trebizond Dates from One Green World seem to be holding their
>> own so far. I transplanted all of them into larger containers
>> after dividing some of the trunk sections. They seem to have had a
>> decent year.
>> Enjoyed your Uncommon Fruits
>> Jim Elie
>> Green Bay WI
>> zone 4/5
>> ---- Lee Reich <lreich at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> Any chance that I could get a half-dozen or so seeds of igde from
>>> for planting? Years ago I got some from the USDA but they never
>>> In my book about uncommon fruits, I wrote that the seeds did not
>>> germinate readily, often waiting until the second season unless they
>>> were nicked, soaked in acid, kept warm and moist for a few weeks,
>>> cracked out of their seed coats, or washed for 6 days to leach out
>>> inhibitors. Sounds like you found none of this to be true. (Maybe I
>>> read my own book too closely about how hard the seeds are to
>>> If your seedlings are growing well, you're probably home free.
>>> Whenever I've put in plants of King Red, they've always collapsed
>>> before the end of their first season, something Hector Black, in
>>> Tennessee, also noted.
>>> Lee Reich, PhD
>>> Books by Lee Reich:
>>> A Northeast Gardener's Year
>>> The Pruning Book
>>> Weedless Gardening
>>> Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
>>> Landscaping with Fruit
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