[NAFEX] Russian olives

Lee Reich lreich at hvc.rr.com
Fri Dec 4 09:45:23 EST 2009


Hi Jim,

I soaked the seeds for almost week, with daily water changes, and the  
sprouts have practically jumped out of the seeds! I potted them up and  
I'll keep them in the greenhouse. I would have preferred it if they  
had waited until spring to germinate.

I got just about 100% germination. Hopefully, there'll be some  
variation in the King Red, with at least one surviving summers and  
winters here.

Lee
Lee Reich, PhD
http://www.leereich.com/

Books by Lee Reich:
A Northeast Gardener's Year
The Pruning Book
Weedless Gardening
Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
Landscaping with Fruit




On Oct 31, 2009, at 9:16 PM, <jelie at new.rr.com> <jelie at new.rr.com>  
wrote:

> Hey Lee,
>
> I discovered an omission.  I failed to mention that I placed the  
> previously soaked seeds in the plastic bag with a damp paper towel  
> and then placed that in the REFRIGERATOR.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Elie
>
>
> ---- jelie at new.rr.com wrote:
>> Hey Lee,
>>
>> Sure, no problem with sending some seeds your way.  Just send your  
>> address to me outside of the listserv and I will get them in the  
>> mail.
>>
>> I have to admit that I got the idea to order some igde/senjed fruit  
>> from the Plants for a Future website.  There was some discussion on  
>> whether they were actually elaeagnus or some other fruit so I  
>> decided I would check it out for myself.  I found they were in fact  
>> elaeagnus and knew I would plant out a few.  The soaking regimen  
>> was roughly that recommended for apple pippins by Phil Forsline of  
>> the USDA.  I soaked the seeds for about 4-6 days (sorry, wasn't  
>> keeping records) while repeating water changes.  I then placed them  
>> in with a damp paper towel in a plastic bag and monitored.  I  
>> periodically disinfected them with a 1:10 bleach solution as  
>> needed.  At around 3 months I started planting them out but had no  
>> germination in the refrigerator up to that time.  A few that  
>> remained were germinating in the refrigerator at around four  
>> months.  I transplanted the rest of the seeds outdoors and have had  
>> good success with the seedlings coming up with no noticeable signs  
>> of disease
> or
>>  pests so far.
>>
>> My Trebizond Dates from One Green World seem to be holding their  
>> own so far.  I transplanted all of them into larger containers  
>> after dividing some of the trunk sections.  They seem to have had a  
>> decent year.
>>
>> Enjoyed your Uncommon Fruits
>>
>> Jim Elie
>> Green Bay WI
>> zone 4/5
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- Lee Reich <lreich at hvc.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Jim,
>>>
>>> Any chance that I could get a half-dozen or so seeds of igde from  
>>> you
>>> for planting? Years ago I got some from the USDA but they never
>>> germinated.
>>>
>>> In my book about uncommon fruits, I wrote that the seeds did not
>>> germinate readily, often waiting until the second season unless they
>>> were nicked, soaked in acid, kept warm and moist for a few weeks,
>>> cracked out of their seed coats, or washed for 6 days to leach out
>>> inhibitors. Sounds like you found none of this to be true. (Maybe I
>>> read my own book too closely about how hard the seeds are to  
>>> germinate!)
>>>
>>> If your seedlings are growing well, you're probably home free.
>>> Whenever I've put in plants of King Red, they've always collapsed
>>> before the end of their first season, something Hector Black, in
>>> Tennessee, also noted.
>>>
>>> Lee
>>> Lee Reich, PhD
>>> http://www.leereich.com/
>>>
>>> Books by Lee Reich:
>>> A Northeast Gardener's Year
>>> The Pruning Book
>>> Weedless Gardening
>>> Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
>>> Landscaping with Fruit
>>>
>>
>>
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