[NAFEX] nafex Digest, Vol 70, Issue 39
Webmail wynne
wynne at crcwnet.com
Mon Nov 17 11:06:30 EST 2008
regarding the pinova apple
the pinova is the pinata now, was the corail before recently bought by Stemilt
very nice apple but prone to sunburn
try getting scions from collectors
they are available
wynne @jerzyboyz farm
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> 1. Raintree (Harrick, Barbara)
> 2. Lead shot in soil (jas39a at earthlink.net)
> 3. Asian/American Plums (Jim Fruth)
> 4. Re: Lead shot in soil (jas39a at earthlink.net)
> 5. Re: Rootstock for Canadian growers (Luffman, Margie)
> 6. critter crunching (Sheridan Shumway)
> 7. Re: Corail (Pinova) (David.Maxwell at dal.ca)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 07:02:54 -0500
> From: "Harrick, Barbara" <b.harrick at ilslaunch.com>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Raintree
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> I second that Eddie--I love Raintree. I have received beautiful trees,
> bushes, and citrus from them. They are great to work with over the
> phone and are very responsive by email if you have questions before you
> buy. Since I have never had to return anything to them, I can't
> comment, but through the high quality of interaction I have had with
> them, I can't imagine returns would be a hassle.
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> They are a little pricey, but if you read through their catalog and look
> at the high level of research and accuracy they maintain, you will not
> be disappointed working with them.
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> Barbara
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:17:08 +0000
> From: "Chris Garriss" <cgarriss at garriss.net>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Raintree
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> Does anyone have any input on Raintree Nursery? I am considering
> ordering from them but am unfamiliar with their service / reputation.
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> Thanks,
> Chris
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:45:14 -0500
> From: "Eddie Earles" <jas39a at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Raintree
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> Raintree is my favorite nursery. Over the years, about half my stock
> has come from them. I am always pleased with their service.
>
> If you live in the eastern half of the country, be advised that most of
> their apples and apple rootstocks are not resistant to fireblight. Be
> sure to take this into consideration before ordering any apples or
> pears.
>
> Eddie Earles
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:19:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> From: jas39a at earthlink.net
> Subject: [NAFEX] Lead shot in soil
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> The solubility of elemental lead at ambient soil pH values (pH generally in
> the range of 4.8 to 8.0 for agicultural soils in temperate regions) is
> pretty low; for most of us there is no need to worry about contamination of
> food from lead shot in the soil. Go ahead and use your shotguns.
>
> The exception to this is flooded soils (e.g., in rice paddies), where the eH
> (electronegative potential) can be very low; solubility of heavy metals can
> increase even at pH values near neutral in conditions of low eH.
>
> Eddie Earles
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 07:41:06 -0600
> From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth at tds.net>
> Subject: [NAFEX] Asian/American Plums
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> William Garthright wrote, "Regarding Asian/American hybrid plums, like
> the recently discussed 'Superior': I've read that pollination can be
> problematic with these. Specifically, some say they pollinate each other,
> while others say that they can only be pollinated by wild plums, and that
> the people who think their hybrid."
>
> Putting all rumors and speculations aside, my 'Superior' Plum produces
> full crops of fruit and there isn't a wild plum within miles.
>
> We Americans tend to believe that anything written in a book is truth
> whereas a published work is no more than someone's (sometimes uneducated)
> opinion. Don't believe everything you read.
>
> Jim Fruth
> Brambleberry Farm
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:45:40 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> From: jas39a at earthlink.net
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Lead shot in soil
> To: jas39a at earthlink.net, North American Fruit Explorers
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> I should have added to this, that even in paddy soils, after several weeks
> of flooding, dissolved Lead will precipitate out as PbS, which is nearly
> insoluble.
>
> Eddie Earles
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> -----Original Message-----
>>From: jas39a at earthlink.net
>>Sent: Nov 17, 2008 8:19 AM
>>To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
>>Subject: [NAFEX] Lead shot in soil
>>
>>The solubility of elemental lead at ambient soil pH values (pH generally in
>> the range of 4.8 to 8.0 for agicultural soils in temperate regions) is
>> pretty low; for most of us there is no need to worry about contamination
>> of food from lead shot in the soil. Go ahead and use your shotguns.
>>
>>The exception to this is flooded soils (e.g., in rice paddies), where the
>> eH (electronegative potential) can be very low; solubility of heavy metals
>> can increase even at pH values near neutral in conditions of low eH.
>>
>>Eddie Earles
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:17:13 -0500
> From: "Luffman, Margie" <luffmanm at AGR.GC.CA>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Rootstock for Canadian growers
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> That is wonderful news. I receive a lot of inquires about rootstock sources
> so I will refer them to you. Thanks.
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> Margie
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> Margie Luffman
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Siloam Orchards
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 6:49 AM
> To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [NAFEX] Rootstock for Canadian growers
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>
> Greetings,
>
> Due to a lack of Canadian suppliers of rootstock for
> Canadian hobbyists and backyard growers we will be making available some of
> our spring fruit rootstock supply in small quantities ( bundles of 10 and
> fewer). Limited supply, not available until April.
>
> Eric, Siloam Orchards, Uxbridge Ontario
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:25:37 -0800 (PST)
> From: Sheridan Shumway <rattler_mt at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [NAFEX] critter crunching
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> i have not eaten bobcat but in Montana cougar is considered fit for human
> consumption and the meat must be taken out of the field along with the hide
> and skull and not wasted...i havent had the chance to try it yet but my half
> brother says it is one of his all time favorite meats. he says its pretty
> mild. i would assume bobcat is the same but i havent shot one since finding
> out about my brothers preference for cougar. as for dog, i draw the line
> there. just something i cant get past. i havent had but am willing to try
> critters like coon, beaver and such but i just cant do dog.
>
> Sheridan S.
> northeast Montana
> zone 3/4
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:15:46 -0400
> From: David.Maxwell at dal.ca
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Corail (Pinova)
> To: nafex at lists.ibiblio.org
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> I am curious as to how you make out getting Pinova (Corail) scions. This is
> a patented
> cultivar, and when I tried last year to get scions I got a flat and absolute
> "No". I was given the
> address of the patent holder (in Washington) and told that if they agreed, I
> could have a few
> sticks. "They" wouldn't even bother to answer my request.
> This is a whole area which I have not seen discussed on NAFEX - with the
> advent of the
> concept of patenting plant life, effectively most newer cultivars are placed
> out of the reach of
> backyard growers. (Personally, I find the whole concept of patenting living
> things
> inappropriate. I can understand the idea in relation to new cultivars,
> (even if I disagree with
> it), but then extending the concept to include things like neem oil (which
> has been around
> since before man) is abhorent.)
> All this said, Corail is an excellent apple, not well known in North America
> (perhaps because
> of the control execised by the patent holders?), but widely available and
> popular in Europe.
> Crisp, juicy, very flavourful. (Much more flavourful than most of the
> varieties in commercial
> cultivation in North America; does this say something about the tastes of
> North Americans vs.
> Europeans? Is there a cultural difference in tastes?)
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