[NAFEX] Are GM Crops Killing Honeybees?

Michael Nave jmichaelnave at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 30 15:07:34 EDT 2007


There are a very limited number of explanations for
someone who prints disinformation:

stupidity
ignorance
dishonesty

I don't know which is the case here. 

 



--- Mark & Helen Angermayer <hangermayer at isp.com>
wrote:

> Hi Michael,
> 
> You've obviously knowledgeable on this topic, and
> passionate.  But I find
> when I slip into judging others motives, I'm
> generally wrong.
> 
> Mark
> Kansas
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael Nave" <>
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers"
> <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Are GM Crops Killing Honeybees?
> 
> 
> > When someone says that GM has been tested to the
> hilt,
> > and that statement has no backing in fact, I'm
> pretty
> > sure that person has no interest in education. As
> for
> > others on the list, just research it for yourself.
> > Almost every week GM products are implicated in
> > another problem.
> >
> >
> > --- "regina"  wrote:
> >
> > > Whooooah.  Careful, Michael my friend, if I were
> at
> > > the other end of
> > > that e-mail I'd think you might be straying
> > > dangerously close to
> > > fighting words. This could degenerate into a
> flame
> > > war inappropriate
> > > for the NAFEX forum, and the opportunity to
> educate
> > > on the issue would
> > > be lost.
> > >
> > > This from someone who agrees with you 100% on
> the
> > > issue of inadequate
> > > testing and all-round evilness of GM products.
> > >
> > > ----Original Message----
> > > From: michaelnave
> > > Date: Mar 29, 2007 9:03
> > > To: "North American Fruit
> > > Explorers"<nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Subj: Re: [NAFEX] Are GM Crops Killing
> Honeybees?
> > >
> > > Because each GM product is NOT scrutinized to
> the
> > > hilt.
> > >
> > > GM testing always operates under unproven
> > > assumptions
> > > about what might or might not be problematic
> because
> > > there is no way to test all potential impacts of
> GM
> > > foods. So the questions is, are the testers
> missing
> > > things? The answer is yes:
> > >
> > > Where is the safety testing of GM soya?
> > > http://www.connectotel.com/gmfood/soyarefs.html
> > >
> > > GM SAFETY TESTS FLAWED
> > > http://www.foe.co.
> > >
> >
>
uk/resource/press_releases/gm_safety_tests_flawed_new_24112004.html
> > >
> > > Inadequate safety assessment of GE foods
> > > http://www.psrast.org/subeqow.htm
> > >
> > > Genetic Biologist explains GM dangers
> > > http://beehive.thisisdorset.co.uk/default.asp?
> > > WCI=SiteHome&ID=5122&PageID=43996
> > >
> > > Could GM Foods Cause Allergies?
> > >
> >
>
http://www.foe.co.uk/resource/briefings/gm_alergies.pdf
> > >
> > > There are HUNDREDS of articles on the interent
> > > concerning the failures to test GM foods
> adequately.
> > > That you seem to be unaware of any of them is a
> > > testament to either your ignorance or your
> > > dishonesty.
> > > That you choose to post on topics of which you
> > > appear
> > > to be completely ignorant is bad enough. If you
> post
> > > again claiming that GM foods are adequately
> tested,
> > > I
> > > will know beyond any doubt that something more
> than
> > > ignorance is at issue.
> > >
> > > Not only has the testing been shoddy, but those
> who
> > > criticize GM foods or the testing procedures are
> > > likely to face retribution:
> > >
> > > Critic of GM organisms barred from Canada
> > >
> >
>
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/life/gm-food/mg18625013.600-critic-
> > > of-gm-organisms-barred-from-canada.html
> > >
> > > You want to be fair? Here's what's fair. Quit
> > > growing
> > > all GM prodcuts until they have all been
> adequately
> > > tested. It is not the public's burden to prove a
> GM
> > > organism can harm a person, an animal or a bee,
> it
> > > is
> > > the GM grower's burden to show that there is no
> way
> > > that GM organism can harm anyone. That has not
> been
> > > done.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Anton Callaway <> wrote:
> > >
> > > > If we do not know what is happening, then why
> zero
> > > > in on GM, when each "GM" product is 
> scrutinized
> > > to
> > > > the hilt?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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