[NAFEX] zone 7 east coast mulberry-attn Lee Reich

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I believe that the one that I got was Noir of Spain.

Lee Reich, PhD
garden at leereich.com

Books by Lee Reich:
The Pruning Book
Weedless Gardening
Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
A Northeast Gardener's Year


On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Michael Nave wrote:

> Which Whitman is a true M. Nigra? They allegedly have
> more than one. I have grown their Shangri La. It was
> not M. Nigra. It did not have stout branches or the
> leaf texture of M. nigra.
>
>
> --- Lee Reich <garden at leereich.com> wrote:
>
>> Whitman's M. nigra is a true M. nigra as evident
>> from the leaf shape
>> and texture and the stoutness of the branches as
>> well as fruit
>> quality and ripening time. The reason I grow it in a
>> pot here in Zone
>> 5 of New York is so that I can overwinter the pot in
>> my very cool
>> basement.
>>
>> Lee Reich, PhD
>> garden at leereich.com
>>
>> Books by Lee Reich:
>> The Pruning Book
>> Weedless Gardening
>> Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
>> A Northeast Gardener's Year
>>
>>
>> On Mar 24, 2007, at 12:18 AM, Michael Nave wrote:
>>
>>> Morus nigra is widely grown worldwide in areas
>> with
>>> zone 7 and zone 8 type temperatures and is
>> reported
>>> sometimes growing in zone 6 and maybe even zone 5.
>> The
>>> biggest problem we have in the US with regard to
>> morus
>>> nigra is that we have a relatively small amount of
>>> true morus nigra germplasm.
>>>
>>> I don't believe Shangri La is morus nigra. It has
>>> black fruit but it doesn't look like morus nigra
>> at
>>> all. And the fruit is not that good. Whitman is a
>> very
>>> good nursery but many nurseries seem to think that
>>> black fruited mulberries must be morus nigra and
>> that
>>> simply isn't true.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure though why so many people in cooler
>> areas
>>> are fixated on growing morus nigra. I have two
>> morus
>>> nigra but prefer Silk Hope, Oscars and Illinois
>>> Everbearing mulberries. I don't care whether they
>> are
>>> morus nigra, morus rubra etc. I just care how they
>>> taste and how well they grow.
>>>
>>> But if you're set on morus nigra, try Ernie
>>> Grimo(Grimo Nut Nursery) who I believe has a true
>> zone
>>> 7 morus nigra. Or you can request scionwood next
>>> winter from the USDA's germplasm collection. They
>> have
>>> Shah Tut and a few other true morus nigra trees. I
>>> think they even have a zone 5 or 6 morus nigra
>> from
>>> Russia.
>>>
>>> --- "drosehngs1 at juno.com" <drosehngs1 at juno.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone out there had success growing a black
>>>> mulberry (morus nigra,
>>>> not morus alba nor morus alba x rubra) on the
>> east
>>>> coast?  If so, what
>>>> cultivar?
>>>>
>>>> Whitman Farms indicates morus nigra to be hardy
>> to
>>>> zone 7, and one
>>>> variety (shangri-la) appears to be able to handle
>>>> humidity (though I
>>>> believe Lee Reich states this is a morus alba and
>>>> rather bland).
>>>>
>>>> Please advise.  Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> George Drosehn (zone 7)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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