[NAFEX] In Search of Strange Plants!

ethan roland eroland at gmail.com
Sun Jan 28 11:34:46 EST 2007


Howdy All-

I am looking for sources of a handful of strange + interesting plants for a
new forest garden I am planting in Upstate New York. I have not been able to
locate any of the following, and I appreciate any leads y'all can give me!
The plants are:

- Amelanchier stolonifera (running juneberry)
- Glycyrrhiza lepidota (American licorice)
- Robinia viscosa (clammy locust)
- Zanthoxylum americanum (prickly ash; American pepper tree)

The characteristic I'm looking for with the first three is an ability to
sucker and run...

Please let me know if you have any ideas!

Cheers,
Ethan



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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:04:05 -0500
> From: Stefan Brandle <sbrandle at css.taylor.edu>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Pixie Crunch apple scionwood - Not
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> I tried talking to Purdue people about how to making payments for
> grafting coop apples. Jules Janick answered my email and was very
> friendly. He gave me the email address of someone at the Purdue
> Foundation to correspond with. Said person did an admirable imitation of
> a email black hole. I gave up and dropped the idea. I really got the
> impression that they aren't set up to handle individuals doing small
> quantities and would rather not have to know about it. So the report
> that they said "give something in our name to your favorite
> charity"sounds realistic.
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> P.S.: Just got back from a two week trip to Nigeria. Sadly, way to early
> for mangos and other wonderful fruits. I'll post about that in the next
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> Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:19:08 -0600
> From: "Donna &/or Kieran" <holycow at cookeville.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Small Black Bullace
> To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Chuck,
>     If you don't get any reply on this, you might look see if you can find
> some company that sells tree seeds that has them.  Of course, you can't get
> them from any European company due to Plum Pox.
>     Really, the bullace and the damson are considered to be the same
> except for shape of fruit.  True, I saw bullace wild in hedgerows in England
> but not damson.  But they will taste very similar and the trees will be very
> similar.  Why exactly are you wanting bullace?     Donna
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> From: "Lon J. Rombough" <lonrom at hevanet.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Small Black Bullace
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> I have a white bullace, and some Prunus spinosa, the sloe plum, if that
> would help.  P. spinosa is one of the parent species of P. insititia,
> and P. domestica.  Quite small, very intense and astringent until it
> has hung on the tree for a very long time.  The "tree" is a shrubby
> thing, really not much more than a large bush about 10 feet tall.
> -Lon Rombough
> Grapes, writing, consulting, my book, The Grape Grower, at
> http://www.bunchgrapes.com  Winner of the Garden Writers Association
> "Best Talent in Writing" award for 2003.
> For even more grape lessons, go to  http://www.grapeschool.com
> For growing supplies and more;  http://www.grapegrowersolutions.com
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> On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:19 PM, Donna &/or Kieran wrote:
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> Chuck,
> ??? If you don't get any reply on this, you might look see if you can
> find some company that sells tree seeds that has them.? Of course, you
> can't get them from any European company due to Plum Pox.?
> ??? Really, the bullace and the damson are considered to be the same
> except for shape of fruit.? True, I saw bullace wild in hedgerows in
> England but not damson.??But they will taste very similar and the trees
> will be very similar.? Why exactly are you wanting bullace?????
> Donna_______________________________________________
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> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:08:53 EST
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> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Videoa available from NAFEX 2006
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> In a message dated 1/24/2007 11:38:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> BekeeprTop at aol.com writes:
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> > Jerry,
> > My DVD player plays "DVD, CD, Kodak Picture CD, CD-R and CD-RW; and
> there's
> > various formats but it doesn't say anything about MPG.   I don't
> understand
> > MPG, I'm guessing it would bbe bbest converted over to DVD format if you
> are
> > willing to do it.  Or, I still have a video player, if you make
> videos.  I'll
> > take my chances if you can try to convert to DVD.  What do you think?
> > Charlie Paradise
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> Hi Charlie,
>
> MPG is the format the cam corder uses and most computers can play.
>
> Why don't I convert one MPG to DVD and send it? If it works I can convert
> all
> if you wish. If the one doesn't play on your DVD the postage is only 87
> cents
> for one, don't worry about it. Which MPG do you wish?
> Jerry
>
> MPG 95   Exploring the Caucasus Mountains for Wild Fruits and Nuts, Joseph
>                        Postman
> MPG.95            Pawpaw, Currant and Gooseberry, Kirk Pomper
> MPG.95           Apricots, A Wider Geographical Possibility, Bob Purvis?
>
> MPG.96            Primocane Fruiting Blackberries: Origin and Potential,
> John
> Clark
> MPG.96            Novel Fruits for the Backyard & Retail Growers,
> Charlotte
> Shelton
> MPG.96           Unusual Fruits for Backyard Orchards, Heirloom and New,
> Richard Moyer
>
> MPG.97           Breeding Pears for Psylla and Fire Blight Resistance,
> Richard Bell
> MPG.97           Fall Bearing Black Raspberry Breeding Progress, Pete
> Tallman
>
> MPG.97           Fruit Breeding for the Amateur, Felix Cooper
>
> MPG.98           New Novel (Wild) Apples from Tien Shan, Central Asia,
> Diane
> Miller
> MPG.98          Propagating the Tough Stuff (Nuts, Pawpaws, and
> Persimmon),
> John
>                            Brittain
> MPG.98          Sure-Fire Techniques for Budding Peach, Ray Armstrong
>
> MPG.99         Banquet Speaker Pouring Cold Molasses on New Variety
> Introductions: Which                                     Moves
> Quicker?  DR. John Clark
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