[NAFEX] Ammonium vs. Nitrate

Stephen Sadler Docshiva at Docshiva.org
Tue Jan 16 17:54:35 EST 2007


You're not going to find isolated ammonium; its electrical charge makes it
want to combine with another ion. Ammonium (NH4) is a protonated amine of
ammonia (NH3).  You can find ammonium salts, but not just the cation
ammonium as a solid.  A chemist can make an ammonium solution, but it won't
be ammonium in water, and the ammonium won't precipitate out except as a
salt.  It's very reactive, and shouldn't be played with.

Ammonia should be commonly available, it's used as a glass and floor
cleaner.  Or are you looking for nitrogen amendments for soil?  Those, too,
are commonly available.  

~ Stephen

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of O'Barr, R. D.
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:40 PM
To: reveland at bresnan.net; North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Ammonium vs. Nitrate

Ammonium is an adjective.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <reveland at bresnan.net>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Ammonium vs. Nitrate


> It was meant to be nonsensical. Can you tell me where I can buy some
> Ammonium? Ammonium nitrate is used in huge quantities as an explosive
where
> I live and you don't need dynamite to set it off. Just mix it with some
> diesel fuel and then it can be set off with the primer from a rifle
> cartridge, but I am more interested in learning where to purchase some
> Ammonium. I have never seen it on the shelves of a store anywhere.
>
> Rodney
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Fruth" <jfruth at uslink.net>
> To: "NAFEX" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:15 AM
> Subject: [NAFEX] Ammonium vs. Nitrate
>
>
> > Rodney,
> >    Your are mixing terms to the point of being nonsensical.  Ammonium
> > Nitrate is just that, Ammonium (NH4) + Nitrate(NO3).  Conscientious
> > fertilizer dealers often don't sell it to just anyone because it is the
> > stuff that was the primary ingredient for blowing up the Federal Courts
> > Building in Oklahoma City.  Uniform delivery people can be too terrified
> > to
> > have it in their truck - I had it delivered once and the driver was
> > relieved
> > that it hadn't blown up yet - telling him that it needed another
> > ingredient
> > AND dynamite to set it off failed to quell his fear.
> >    Anyway, if you are fertilizing with any form of nitrate, adding just
a
> > smidgeon too much can burn your plants just as fast as urea will.
> > Ammonium
> > is best because it is not available to plants until after soil bacteria
> > convert ammonium to nitrate.  Soil bacteria provide a slow release of
> > nitrate which is unlikely to ever burn plants.
> >
> >
> > Jim Fruth
> > Brambleberry Farm
> > Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
> > www.bberryfarm.com
> > (218)568-8483 [Store]
> > (218)831-7018 [My Cell]




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