[NAFEX] Fruit & ecological systems

Hans Brinkmann hans-brinkmann at t-online.de
Tue Feb 27 13:55:18 EST 2007


Hallo William Freels,
unfortunately by mistake, you mixed up the NAFEX forum with something 
else...
ciao
Hans

William Freels schrieb:
> AMEN
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <martha_davis at highstream.net>
> To: <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 5:16 PM
> Subject: [NAFEX] Fruit & ecological systems
>
>
>   
>> Donna &/or Kieran schrieb:
>>     
>>> Cats may take their toll, but the humans are doing more than their fair
>>> share.   What's really reduced the quail population in Tennessee is
>>>       
> fescue,
>   
>>> they say that it's so thick that baby quail can't move around in it.
>>>       
> The
>   
>>> other thing, that really gets me, is the damned weedeaters.  People move
>>>       
> out
>   
>>> in the country and try to make their entire yard look like a carpet,
>>> including cutting all grass and weeds right up to the road.  They have
>>>       
> nice
>   
>>> smooth expanses which would be convenient for watching wildlife, if only
>>> there were any wildlife left to watch.  Sure, deer and rabbits eat
>>>       
> grass,
>   
>> Donna comments are certainly well taken.  Another movement that addresses
>>     
> some
>   
>> of these concerns in a more pallnnned ecological way in the permaculture
>> movement and forest gardens.  They are often a planned ecolofical system
>> including fruit plants and nuts, but also other food plants and
>>     
> insetariary
>   
>> plants etc etc.
>>
>> Martha
>>
>>
>>  > but quail need bugs and weed/grass SEEDS, which aren't produced when
>>     
>>> everything is kept 2" high.
>>>     Another thing that gets me is the horse population.  Used to be that
>>> horse lovers would have one horse.  Now they have 4 of them, in the same
>>> space.   The horses not only eat everything down to the ground, but they
>>>       
> are
>   
>>> dependent on lots of hay and grain.  I hardly ever see anyone actually
>>>       
> ride
>   
>>> one of the creatures.
>>>     If you stop and think about it, most NAFEXers increase species
>>> diversity.  Certainly compared to the average American lawn, we create
>>>       
> more
>   
>>> green stuff at different heights, creating both cover and food.  At our
>>> place, the soil was so terrible in the cleared area that few species of
>>> weeds would grow.  Now the soil is better over an acre or so, and we
>>>       
> have
>   
>>> provided a great deal of food to the voles, flying squirrels( they like
>>> tomatoes), chicken snakes (they like eggs) hawks and owls (they like
>>> chickens), cardinals (they like chicken feed, and peas pecked fresh from
>>>       
> the
>   
>>> pods) and a multitude of birds that like blueberries.  A bit of
>>>       
> controlled
>   
>>> predation is not a bad thing, especially as so many wild predators are
>>>       
> gone.
>   
>>> The real enemy for birds is loss of  food and habitat.  I remember
>>>       
> someone
>   
>>> years ago commenting that after bug zappers became a fad, they heard and
>>>       
> saw
>   
>>> far fewer birds.    Donna
>>>       
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