[NAFEX] Fruit & ecological systems
Hans Brinkmann
hans-brinkmann at t-online.de
Tue Feb 27 13:55:18 EST 2007
Hallo William Freels,
unfortunately by mistake, you mixed up the NAFEX forum with something
else...
ciao
Hans
William Freels schrieb:
> AMEN
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <martha_davis at highstream.net>
> To: <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 5:16 PM
> Subject: [NAFEX] Fruit & ecological systems
>
>
>
>> Donna &/or Kieran schrieb:
>>
>>> Cats may take their toll, but the humans are doing more than their fair
>>> share. What's really reduced the quail population in Tennessee is
>>>
> fescue,
>
>>> they say that it's so thick that baby quail can't move around in it.
>>>
> The
>
>>> other thing, that really gets me, is the damned weedeaters. People move
>>>
> out
>
>>> in the country and try to make their entire yard look like a carpet,
>>> including cutting all grass and weeds right up to the road. They have
>>>
> nice
>
>>> smooth expanses which would be convenient for watching wildlife, if only
>>> there were any wildlife left to watch. Sure, deer and rabbits eat
>>>
> grass,
>
>> Donna comments are certainly well taken. Another movement that addresses
>>
> some
>
>> of these concerns in a more pallnnned ecological way in the permaculture
>> movement and forest gardens. They are often a planned ecolofical system
>> including fruit plants and nuts, but also other food plants and
>>
> insetariary
>
>> plants etc etc.
>>
>> Martha
>>
>>
>> > but quail need bugs and weed/grass SEEDS, which aren't produced when
>>
>>> everything is kept 2" high.
>>> Another thing that gets me is the horse population. Used to be that
>>> horse lovers would have one horse. Now they have 4 of them, in the same
>>> space. The horses not only eat everything down to the ground, but they
>>>
> are
>
>>> dependent on lots of hay and grain. I hardly ever see anyone actually
>>>
> ride
>
>>> one of the creatures.
>>> If you stop and think about it, most NAFEXers increase species
>>> diversity. Certainly compared to the average American lawn, we create
>>>
> more
>
>>> green stuff at different heights, creating both cover and food. At our
>>> place, the soil was so terrible in the cleared area that few species of
>>> weeds would grow. Now the soil is better over an acre or so, and we
>>>
> have
>
>>> provided a great deal of food to the voles, flying squirrels( they like
>>> tomatoes), chicken snakes (they like eggs) hawks and owls (they like
>>> chickens), cardinals (they like chicken feed, and peas pecked fresh from
>>>
> the
>
>>> pods) and a multitude of birds that like blueberries. A bit of
>>>
> controlled
>
>>> predation is not a bad thing, especially as so many wild predators are
>>>
> gone.
>
>>> The real enemy for birds is loss of food and habitat. I remember
>>>
> someone
>
>>> years ago commenting that after bug zappers became a fad, they heard and
>>>
> saw
>
>>> far fewer birds. Donna
>>>
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