[NAFEX] Cerny Jerab is already identified!

Karen Kellogg garuda2 at comcast.net
Fri Feb 16 18:16:57 EST 2007


Hans, calm down!!!!

 From Karen, who never posts!

On Feb 16, 2007, at 5:49 PM, Hans Brinkmann wrote:

> Hallo Jim Fruth,
>
> the story is over! Finished! Cerny Jerab is identified!
> You are not up-to-date at all!
> Yesterday, your calculation of a "Robin-family" eating black raspberry
> for 600 US$ per season and your
> prognosticated  "explosion in the bird population" just bored me and
> most other readers ignored it probably.
> But to repeat, today again, your wrong yesterday statement: *Sorbus
> melanocarpa is a Mountain Ash*, is leaving only one conclusion:
> Instead of supporting, you just want to confuse others...
>
> Sorry, but I have been many times at Czechoslovakia because - you will
> again not believe - it is a neighbor county of Germany.
> Cerny means: DARK.
> Jerab means SORBUS
> My link http://fyzika.ft.utb.cz/podzamka/karta.php?id=191
> Is showing a little beautiful "tree" of Cerny Jerab with the synonym:
> Temnoplodec cernoplody means: Aronia dark-fruited
> Temno means: DARKISH; plodec means FRUIT
> cerno means:  DARK; plody means: FRUIT
> *Sorbus melanocarpa means SORBUS with DARK FRUITS; as an synonym  for
> Aronia melanocarpa.*
> ARONIA with DARK FRUITS.
>
> "Undeniably" your attempt to make Aronia to a Mountain ash is complete
> nonsense!
> As you explained with your "cat-example" your knowledge about  
> ecology is
> limited and your knowledge about
> the Latin-naming-procedure (which could be really confusing) is  
> probably
> limited too.
> Please do not bore me anymore with your dilettante attempts to  
> cover this!
>
> Bye, bye
> Hans          Germany
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim Fruth schrieb:
>> Hans,
>>     Can you read Czech?  Perhaps you should find a translator  
>> before you
>> continue in this thread.  You should have read the link you sent  
>> (at bottom
>> of this message).  Your link is for Temnoplodec cernoplody, not  
>> Cerny jerab.
>> Go to this link, which IS for Cerny jerab
>> http://www.001shop.cz/Cerny-jerab , then compare the picture on  
>> your link
>> with the picture on this link, undeniably Mountain Ash, Sorbus  
>> melanocarpa.
>>
>> Jim Fruth
>> Brambleberry Farm
>> Pequot Lakes, MN  56472
>> www.bberryfarm.com
>> (218)568-8483 [Store]
>> (218)831-7018 [My Cell]
>>
>> Hallo Jim Fruth,
>> thank you for your e-mail!
>> It is a bush - indeed, but sometimes not!
>> If planted outside USA...
>>
>> Only in this case we both have to trust 100%ly the name Cerny Jerab.
>> This is only Aronia melanocarpa.
>> Look at this page with a "tree-photo":
>> http://fyzika.ft.utb.cz/podzamka/karta.php?id=191
>>
>> I think your plant has been much more known outside USA.
>> Approx. 1900 Michurin imported seeds (from Germany!) to Russia.
>> 1971 Siberia has had already 4.000 ha (1 ha = 10.000m?) of Arionia
>> production.
>> Many East-Europe and North-Europe countries are producing Aronia at
>> plantations.
>> E.g. at GDR it has been the custom to graft aronia onto 1m Sorbus
>> aucuparia rootsstock.
>>
>> Ciao
>> hans
>>
>>
>>
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