Michelle's Oxy Clean is a winner here, too. It seems to work the same as WineMaker's cleaner called B-Brite, which is more expensive. It might be the same stuff? Richard Murphy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/private/nafex/attachments/20061212/3d59b42e/attachment.html