[NAFEX] Bearing time from seed vs graft

Jwlehman at aol.com Jwlehman at aol.com
Wed Feb 16 21:38:32 EST 2005


The question was: Does this sound reasonable Shipova will bear 3 to 4 years 
after grafting, given that Shipova normally doesn't bear until the 7th year or 
later?

Yes, Doreen that is not only reasonable but most likely, based on my 
experiences with grafting many species. However one thing to keep in mind I'm grafting 
material in the ground, not bare root material. 

The difference, as explained to me, is plants from seed aren't mature wood 
while wood taken from bearing trees is mature wood. I've never had a good 
explanation of that but my experience with dozens of persimmon is the average time 
from seed to fruit is about 6 years while the average time from graft to fruit 
is 3. Generally, I'd say bearing from graft is about half the time as from 
seed. Again, I'm grafting onto established root material.  

But with persimmon planting a grafted tree to bearing is nearly the same as 
seed to bearing. It generally takes two years for a persimmon to reestablish 
it's root system and begin good active growth. 

Now back to the, "mature wood" theory. If that is right then grafting wood 
from a one year seedling should take longer to bear. I've done that a few times 
and it does seem to take longer even when grafting it onto mature bearing 
trees. But I've not kept records therefore is not scientific. However this may 
carry over into the apical dominance theory and those that I grafted from seed 
were the growing tip, not side branches.  

This post is all observation and no science!

Jerry






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