[NAFEX] converted willingly

Bruce Hansen brucedhansen at sbcglobal.net
Wed Oct 27 10:16:29 EDT 2004


Heron:

We do not have to bring before the Board voluntary contributions by members.
I am not talking about raising dues. Also, if I create a CD with back issues
of POMONA and wish to sell that CD to Members and then give the money to
NAFEX, I do not need the Boards approval.

B

-----Original Message-----
From: nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
[mailto:nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Heron Breen
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 10:01 AM
To: North American Fruit Explorers
Subject: RE: [NAFEX] converted willingly


Bruce, I know it is hard to patient with the process here, but we still have
to bring these issues formally to the board and the rest of NAFEX. It may
take another year before the involvement we have all been formulating comes
to pass. We all have families, jobs, other distractions like getting the
harvest in before freeze up etc. I think we will all see the fruit of these
fertile discussions but not with two weeks. As a nursery type person, folks
are only now formulating their plantings next year and past Christmas you
will start getting requests. Also, please put your auction idea into Pomona
and that will bring a lot more responses. We have to follow the slow
sometimes laborious and tedious process of incorporating as many ideas as
possible, and recruiting a broad base of support. I lot of people I know
barely read their list-serve weekly, and then only skimming for important
stuff. It is time for us all to start working on our letters, and helping
others to round out theirs. Badgering folks is only going to push them away.
I know, I have done it. This time we need inclusion, patience, and to be in
it for the long haul. I really appreciate your desire for change, and your
forcefulness can push us out of ruts, but we risk the consequences of
sabotaging efforts by blasting folks with too strong a message.  Truly with
respect, Heron  On Wed Oct 27  7:55 , 'Bruce Hansen'
<brucedhansen at sbcglobal.net> sent:  >Taking Heron's point, NAFEX members
have duties and responsibilities. One of >the responsibilities is to fund
your organization. I realize that those on >the list-serv represent about
10% of the membership, perhaps less. Many on >the list-serv are not members.
It appears that all you folk do is talk and >talk and talk, yawn! You never
do anything, apparently. Asking y'all for >$10.00 to NAFEX is like lying on
your back and spitting at the stars. I >asked that each of us purchase three
memberships for others. Wow $39.00!! >You would think you were asking for
$39,000.00. What a bunch of tight-wads. >Shame on you!! I even had one
person state "I do not know anyone who would >want a membership". Egads!!
Use your telephone directory. Pick three people >at random who have
fruit-like last names and buy them a membership. Another >person wanted to
know what the money would be used for. What kind of a >question is that
when, to all intents and purposes, no one will contribute >one red cent? >
>Perhaps we are lucky that most of you won't write letters for POMONA. Why
>expose the rest of the membership, who find using computers demeaning, to
>selfish and self centered attitudes. > >-----Original Message----- >From:
nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
>[nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org','','','')">nafex-bounces at lists.ibiblio.or
g]On Behalf Of Charles Paradise >Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:58 AM
>To: North American Fruit Explorers >Subject: Re: [NAFEX] converted
willingly > > >Writing article is a little like preparing a lecture, then
getting up and >delivering it while everybody else listens. > >A round-robin
is more like a note we passed around in class while the >teacher was out of
the room.  ["Did you watch Outer Limits last night?" >"Let's go to Andy's
after school] > >I haven't written enough articles for Pomona - why can't we
used this email >form here to show our work at its current state and ask the
others to >respond helpfully to help us finish our stuff up so it can be
submitted? > >Charlie Paradise >out of ink in Massachusetts > >Heron Breen
wrote: > >there is a place for an on-line > >> Pomona. Taking it a step
further, I think if we can create a round-robin >effect, >> such as Lon
describes as the original intent of Pomona by looking >presenting what >> is
discussed on the list as discussion points for members, and also >seriously
>> looking at what non-list letters bring up, we can comment on each other.
I >guess I >> am grasping to integrate the two, and still keep the focus to
diversify >and lengthn >> Pomona. How to increase involvement...how to get
folks to >participate....Can't >> force anyone to write, but I am still
intrigued by the old requirement >that writing >> was the duty of members. >
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