[NAFEX] persimmon seeds

Bob Kelly bkelly66 at bellsouth.net
Sun Nov 14 08:55:31 EST 2004


The native persimmon D. virginiana should do well there.  Reportedly hardy 
to -20 or 25 F (-30 C).  They are common in the wild here as I understand 
they are over a good area of the lower US.  I never thought to describe it 
as Tomato-like, though  some kakis would fit the description fairly well.

The D. virginiana is much smaller than the kaki; always astringent till soft 
ripe; but sweeter also .  Many of the popular kakis such as Fuyu and Jiro 
are non astringent.

In driving through the countryside here this time of year, it's fairly 
common to see the native trees loaded with the orange fruit.

Bob




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "derry&bill" <wchase at interchange.ubc.ca>
To: "North American Fruit Explorers" <nafex at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [NAFEX] persimmon seeds


> Bob,
>
> I think I'm 7a or 7b. It's not very clear to me because the USDA says Zone 
> 7a has
> average minimum temps of -15 to -18°C and Zone 7b has average minimum 
> temps of -12
> to -15°C and we certainly don't have those as average minimum temps. We 
> can go
> down to -15°C and maybe even to
> -20°C, but our average minimum temps are much higher, maybe 0°C.
>
> USDA says Vancouver is 6b and that's where the Fuyu persimmon tree is (in 
> a
> sheltered area).
>
> If I could find out what zone Bellingham WA or Seattle WA was in, I'd be 
> the same
> or similar.
>
> I've just tasted Fuyu and I thought it tasted great. Does D virginiana 
> taste as
> good?  Fuyu looks like a mini-pumpkin, does D virginiana look more like a 
> tomato?
>
> We had a drought this summer with record high temps. Maybe this is 
> persimmon
> weather?
>
> Derry
>




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