[nafex] Pest resistant apples

Gordon Nofs gc_nofs at hotmail.com
Wed Sep 26 10:13:54 EDT 2001


Joe there is a book out, I read it. I will get the name etc from my daughter 
and post it. My daughter's girl friend up in Gaylord, Mi. goes to and old 
abandoned farm orchard and gets near perfect apples, and most are perfect. I 
grafted it here and on a stock for her. It has the same problems as the 
others. It is growing in tall weeds.

Gordon C. Nofs
Flint, Michigan
gc_nofs at hotmail.com



----Original Message Follows----
From: jhecksel at voyager.net
Reply-To: nafex at yahoogroups.com
To: nafex at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [nafex] Pest resistant apples
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 07:22:52 -0500 (CDT)

Ed Fackler wrote:
Ed Fackler, one of the smartest guys in heaven, wrote:>
 >      Also, during this period I went on many, many wild-goose chases
around the eastern US looking at the "old trees which bore clean fruit
every
 > year".  When I budded them here, they became equally susceptible to
everything which existed here!!!

Like Ed, I have run across some of these trees.  The one I grafted
turned out to be Spartan, and yes it got bug-bit in my orchard!

A common thread in these mythical "old trees which bore clean fruit
every year" stories is that the tree is old and is growing in an
abandoned farmstead with very few other insect reservoirs.  We have
always jumped to the conclusion that the reason for these trees being
clean is due to them being some magical cultivar.  I have to believe
that the environmental conditions of the trees is more important than
the cultivar.

Many authors have made the observation that a typical fruit orchard is
nothing like a healthy ecosystem.  I think it would be an interesting
experiment to try to mimic, and then manipulate, the variables that
these mythical trees grow in.

-Severe N stress (Two things happen:  Alternate bearing so no host
every other year and low protein available for worms, etc.)
-Many hungry animals constantly scouring the ground for windfalls
(which I believe the trees tend to release earlier than healthiest
fruit.
-Nearest alternate host tree +200 yards (200 meters) away.

Not much use for a commercial grower, but it might be of use to a
"homesteader".

Best regards, Joe




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