[nafex] Prunus mahaleb Pontaleb

Claude Jolicoeur cjoli at gmc.ulaval.ca
Wed Nov 8 01:19:06 EST 2000


Actually, Tom's translation was probably a computer's translation - quite
poor in fact. As far as the word "sein" is concerned, it effectively means
the woman's breast. However, this word can be used in other contexts - in
the phrase in question, it means that it was selected from a population of
P.mahaleb. A "carries-graft" and a "door-middle" are 2 different
translations for the french "porte-greffe" which in fact means rootstock.
In our case, it is a medium vigor rootstock. It is also said that the Ferci
is reproduced from seed with very good homogeneity. Nothing is said about
hardiness. In fact, I have almost never seen hardiness data in French
documentation. The concept of hardiness zone is not used over there,
probably because there is much less climatic variation than in North America.

Claude

A 20:25 00.11.07 -0800, vous avez écrit :
>Tom,
>
>Now that's a literal translation, maybe we should get Claude to give us
another
>translation!
>
>I love 'Selected to the breast of a P mahaleb'!!     What do you think he
means?
>
>Derry
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: Thomas Olenio <tolenio at sentex.net>
>To: <nafex at egroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 4:07 PM
>Subject: Re: [nafex] Re: Prunus mahaleb Pontaleb
>
>
>Prunus mahaleb (Saint - Lucy) makes the object of an important
>worksince numerous years to the INRA of Bordeaux. Selected to the
>breastof a Prunus mahaleb share in 1960, distributed from 1967,
>the,clone SL 64 is used since several decades; he givessatisfaction as
>door - middle vigor graft, and it iscurrently the carries - graft of
>cherry-tree the more multiplied (150 000plantations per year). Several
>generations of autofcondations achieved toto leave from Prunus
>mahaleb types autocompatibles permitted thenthe obtaining of a new
>carries - graft: Ferci (PONTALEB), proposedlately to fruit-growers
>and that, in addition of his/her/itgeneity and ofinduced productivity
>extensively recognized (100 000 plans per yearcurrently
>s
>easiness ofmultiplication by seedling, present qualities of homo
>
>--
>Thomas Olenio
>Ontario, Hardiness Zone 6a
>
>On Tue, 7 Nov 2000 edforest55 at hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Does this say anything about winter hardiness? (Je no parle pa
>> frances.)
>>
>> Le Prunus mahaleb (Sainte-Lucie) fait l'objet d'un important travail
>> depuis de nombreuses années à l'INRA de Bordeaux. Sélectionné au sein
>> d'un lot de Prunus mahaleb en 1960, diffusé à partir de 1967, le
>> clone SL 64 est utilisé depuis plusieurs décennies ; il donne
>> satisfaction comme porte-greffe de vigueur moyenne, et c'est
>> actuellement le porte-greffe de cerisier le plus multiplié (150 000
>> plants par an). Plusieurs générations d'autofécondations réalisées à
>> partir de types autocompatibles de Prunus mahaleb ont ensuite permis
>> l'obtention d'un nouveau porte-greffe : Ferci (PONTALEB®), proposé
>> récemment aux arboriculteurs et qui, en plus de sa facilité de
>> multiplication par semis, présente des qualités d'homogénéité et de
>> productivité induite largement reconnues (100 000 plans par an
>> actuellement


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