[Market-farming] pumpkin trash

E C GRANATA elainegranata at msn.com
Sun Nov 2 22:21:57 EST 2008


Jaime:  Rye also has an alleopathic (sp?) effect -- it'll supress germination, so if you are going to direct seed following rye, I think they say to wait 30-45 days after knock down/turning it under, before direct seeding.  For transplants, it's not a problem.

Elaine
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jjburroughs at msn.com<mailto:jjburroughs at msn.com> 
  To: Market Farming<mailto:market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org> 
  Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 9:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [Market-farming] pumpkin trash


  Can I ask a stupid question?

  What is the benefit of cover cropping with the rye? Do you cover crop and then just disc and till under for organic substance? Or do you use the rye for something? chop and feed to animals? or just to help with the weeds during the winter season?

  Jaime

  > Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:04:15 -0700
  > From: sunnfarm at netscape.com
  > To: market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org
  > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] pumpkin trash
  > 
  > Bill, I agree that 2 bushel /acre grain rye is the best. I paid $16 a bu for what we call western grain rye. local rye is half the price but usually full of weeds and small animal body parts. I found that applying a little more than 1/2 bushel and getting it well spaced and with good germ worked. I was surprised and my wallet felt good too. I have not purchased perennial rye in a couple years so I don't remember what is cost but the way it spreads and persists I think I will use more of it in the future.
  > 
  > I have plowed under perennial ryegrass, planted sweetcorn, applied attrazine and dual along with cultivation yet by harvest time the ryegrass would come back completely covering the field better than when I seeded it a year earlier despite all the tillage and herbicides. It could become a perennial cover crop. This is something I am experminting with... Bob.
  > 
  > --- wshoemak at inil.com wrote:
  > 
  > From: "Bill Shoemaker" <wshoemak at inil.com>
  > To: "Market Farming" <market-farming at lists.ibiblio.org>
  > Subject: Re: [Market-farming] pumpkin trash
  > Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:03:29 -0500
  > 
  > Bob
  > 
  > Is it perennial ryegrass you are buying for $16/bushel or are you using 
  > grain rye? We've been using grain rye at various rates but usually 90 or 120 
  > lb/acre gives us our best stands. We have heavy prairie soils.
  > 
  > Bill Shoemaker, Sr Research Specialist, Food Crops
  > University of Illinois - St Charles Horticulture Research Center
  > www.nres.uiuc.edu/faculty/directory/shoemaker_wh.html
  > 
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