[internetworkers] NCSU Police Blotter Case
ianmeyer at gmail.com
Sat Jul 10 20:35:33 EDT 2004
here's the more recent article:
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:54:47 -0400, Ian Meyer <ianmeyer at gmail.com> wrote:
> there was an article in today's technician about this, unfortunately,
> their site hasnt been updated for 2 weeks. grr.
> there is another article, slightly older, here:
> today's article doesn't mention the additional computers, but does
> refer to TWW and a couple other people involved in the defense. Also,
> they have raised a fair amount of money, "several hundred dollars"
> according to the article, and the main person behind the money
> collection effort claims they received $116 in one day alone.
> there a couple totally lame points they claimed on the website that
> has since been taken down, that are referred to in the article. the
> main one being they didn't know they were accessing a restricted area.
> yet they had to enter the improperly gained password...
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 11:34:59 -0400, Ian Meyer <ianmeyer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I was watching it go down on TWW and shaking my head, agreeing with
> > the people who were saying "Dont f*ck with the cops man, they'll get
> > you" and watching the perps saying "Hell no, they'll never get us"
> > That alone negates any sympathy form me to them.
> > In spite of the fact that felony charges are probably an overreaction,
> > the fact remains that at the time, they were being warned by people
> > who realized that it was in violation of the law, and they chose to go
> > ahead and do it.
> > I think that the law is extreme, but its at the same time necessary to
> > keep people from doing even stupid shit like this.
> > Its a small step from guessing a really obvious password to setting up
> > a bruteforce attack to really messing things up. Its people like us
> > who know better than to do that, but people like the perps in this
> > case and script kiddies think its all fun and games, and there need to
> > be harsh laws to put the fear into them to keep them from doing crap
> > that in the end may escalate to something really serious.
> > From their persepctive: One of the "West Raleigh Three"s LJs:
> > http://www.livejournal.com/users/jlhamilt/
> > and "Free The West Raleigh Three": http://pwnt.org/wr3.html (this used
> > to have the story on it, i guess their lawyers told them it was a bad
> > idea)
> > Anyway, as you can tell, I dont have any pity for these guys, and in
> > spite of my recent activities, I have nothing but respect for the cops
> > themselves, its just the laws that I dont respect, and in my book, you
> > just don't f*ck with the cops.
> > ~Ian
> > On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 09:56:35 -0400 (EDT), zman
> > <zman at gibbon.kungfumonkey.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Mark Turner wrote:
> > > > Do any of you remember the recent news story about the N.C. State Police
> > > > Blotter website being updated with humorous entries by Wolf Web
> > > > visitors? I found out today that the kids who pulled this prank are now
> > > > facing felony charges and jail time.
> > > >
> > > > So those are my thoughts. What are your thoughts? What should be the
> > > > appropriate response? How you think the NCSU Police should handle this case?
> > >
> > > I'm just surprised that Ian wasn't involved. But overall I think that they
> > > are overreacting, again...
> > >
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