[Homestead] Dorpers and Katahdins
paxamicus at earthlink.net
paxamicus at earthlink.net
Mon Oct 27 09:14:13 EDT 2008
Roy "works" our sheep without dogs, they come running when they see
him. Remember that old song "Candy Man"? They would follow him anywhere.
Me, I dislike working socialized sheep, the wilder the better. These
Katahdins have basically become pets.
I could sheer wool sheep with my giant horse clippers. I went and got
a lesson from a wandering sheep man on a friend's commercial flock. It
isn't so very hard once you've nailed down the containment
issue...head gate, sling, hammock, whatever. I mean, it's not like you
actually need them to look pretty when you're done. I've done horses
where I sweated over every blade mark.
Oddly, one thing I would be interested in is trying my hand at sheep
milk's cheese....it's pretty hard to find fresh soft cheeses around
here, but...BIG but, that's a long way off. I'm not even close to
thinking about it yet.
MY first time ewes got mostly twins, a few singles, and one set of
trips which were then orphaned, and which we successfully bottle
raised to maturity.
I selected for color so I could tell them apart. Ha!
On Oct 23, 2008, at 11:09 PM, EarthNSky wrote:
> I've had great luck with Katahdins, the breed Moon also has. I don't
> know if Dan Settles is still around, but I think he had them, too. Up
> until 3 years ago, I ran 10-30 head on my front pasture. I've never
> any other breed, but I can say I was very pleased with Katahdins and
> will get them again. I won't rule out a Dorper cross though, as
> people in this area have Dorper/Katahdin crosses.
> My Katahdins, while stupid like other sheep, looked more like goats
> to their hair. I selected for white Katahdins because we live in a
> remote area, the front pasture is next to the road, and spotlighters
> common. I wanted anyone with bad intentions to know that my sheep are
> sheep, not deer. I had no parasite issues, and from my experience,
> they almost always twin, and I had triplets at least once a year it
> seemed. However, and maybe it was just my ewes, but whenever we had
> trips, one would always suffer and end up dying eventually, either the
> mother would abandon it, wean it too early, or the ram/queens would
> it out. For whatever reason, I'd always lose the third. I think I
> singletons possibly 4 or 5 times, always from very young ewes, first
> time mothers. In our climate, it did seem like they breed year
> I've had lambs born at Christmas, in March, and in August.
> I had sheep and goats at the same time. I had a hands on approach
> the goats, and a hands off approach with the sheep. They were rounded
> up and 'worked' once, maybe twice a year. No shearing necessary, just
> hoof work, immunizations, worming, checks, etc. I bottle fed a few
> lambs over the years, and if Ray is still around, he can give you an
> update on two I sold to him...
> If I did not have milk goats, I might try a more hands on approach
> the sheep. My sheep were so wild that it was hard to work them. That
> is why I finally resorted to a dog. I think it is possible to work
> sheep without a dog-I did it, and with a hands on approach it would be
> easier to do without a dog, but I think I'll give serious thought to
> renting someone's herder come time to work the sheep. For me, I'm
> not into trialing and herding competitions, and my pasture is not some
> wide open expanse, so I don't need a dog everyday, just a few times
> a year.
> The reason we raised sheep, and will raise them again is for the lamb.
> I can eat lamb once a week...love it. Of course, I can't afford to
> it but once a year.
> Lynda wrote:
>> Don't have him yet but are considering a Dorper as a ram vs. the
>> St. Croix
>> due to the beard on the St. Croix. Around here we'd end up with a
>> BIG mess!
>> The total body weight to cut weight is better on the St. Croix and
>> they are
>> "nicer" sheep to work with but, well, heck, the ram's gonna stay in a
>> limited area and not be something one works with much, so no big
>> deal. The
>> Dorper still have a better dressed weight to useable weight then your
>> "average" lamb that goes to market.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <paxamicus at earthlink.net>
>>> Let's step away from the politics together, you and I..... tell me
>>> about your Dorpers, I was thinking about a dorper ram for my
>>> On Oct 23, 2008, at 6:06 PM, Lynda wrote:
>>>> This is silly. So you don't like Drudge. Click on the info and go
>>>> to the
>>>> original source. He certainly doesn't write the headlines that he
>>>> down. So here's links to the actual reports:
>>>> House shot up over McCain sign:
>>>> McCain volunteer attacked and mutilated, "the robber took $60
>>>> from the
>>>> woman, then became angry when he saw a McCain bumper sticker on the
>>>> car. The attacker then punched and kicked the victim, before using
>>>> the knife
>>>> to scratch the letter "B" into her face, Richard said."
>>>> Now, I'm just curious, no pun intended. Were you all worked up
>>>> was a whole magazine on Dumbya that had him as Curious George?
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: <paxamicus at earthlink.net>
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