[Homestead] Pokeweed and in the pokey

bob ford bobford79 at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 17 23:21:31 EDT 2008


Sandy; I had to look up "Rosebud"(found that it is Sioux, as you know).  When someone says "Rosebud", I automatically think of Hearst.

It is strange how people move in and out of a person's life.  Too many.  bobford



--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Bunjov at aol.com <Bunjov at aol.com> wrote:

> From: Bunjov at aol.com <Bunjov at aol.com>
> Subject: [Homestead] Pokeweed and in the pokey
> To: homestead at lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 9:08 PM
> Hi, Bob -
>  
> Yeah, I felt sorry, too...but it took a while.
>  
> The best friend I mentioned happened to be a Rosebud child
> whose parents  had 
> been banned from the S.D. reservation because his father
> was a mean drunk.  
> When he and my son first hooked up, they were about 11. His
> mother eventually  
> got a job at Anheuser-Busch in Van Nuys, and they lived for
> almost a year in a 
>  van in the alley behind our apartment building. She was
> never able to get 
> into  an apartment because her husband drank up her every
> paycheck.
>  
> I will admit that my thinking has always been colored by
> empathy, and some  
> kind of 'identification' issue and endless
> 'cloudy' memories that I'm not  sure 
> are even mine. Nothing gets my back up faster than
> disrespect for The  
> People...be they Navajo or Sioux or Hopi, or anything else.
> To me, they're all  "The 
> People".
>  
> The mom's name was Jenny, and she and my son developed
> a special  
> relationship - which I encouraged, because she was a really
> nice lady who worked  hard. I 
> used to do her taxes. They are the same family that took
> this same son  with 
> them, at age 14, back to the reservation for a visit...and
> now he is a  
> computer geek who talks to trees. So do I. We're out
> here.
>  
> I did have to draw the line, though, when the boys would
> raid my freezer  and 
> take all the meat downstairs to the family's BBQ
> set-up, and I would arrive  
> home from my second full-time job and be greeted by
> delicious aromas  wafting 
> up from the alley while I had nothing to eat.
>  
> Years after I had moved to another part of the San Fernando
> Valley, my  
> downstairs buzzer would ring at 2 in the morning, and
> I'd switch the TV to  Channel 
> 6, and I could see who was downstairs waiting to be buzzed
> in. It was  always 
> the best friend - Barry - with no place to go, and always
> hungry. 
>  
> He still wore his hair in the shoulder-length page-boy, and
> was always  
> appreciative of a good meal, a shower, and a change of
> clothes. He never grew  
> much, over the years, and was destined to be of short
> stature, big-boned, and  
> hefty. I figure the lack of exercise was from just standing
> around waiting to  
> see where his next meal was coming from.
>  
> Aside from the boys' 'escapades', he always
> treated me with the greatest  
> respect.
> I had told him many years earlier that as long as I had a
> place, he'd have  a 
> place.
>  
> I don't know where he is, but I wish him well. He'd
> be welcome here  today.
>  
> Sandy
> Mid-Mojave
> I know there are websites that deal with Native American
> registries. I am  
> ashamed of myself that I've not taken the time to try
> and find him, and the rest 
>  of the family. They are special people from my past - and
> my  past-past.
>  
>  
>  
> In a message dated 10/17/2008 7:12:29 P.M. Pacific Standard
> Time,  
> bobford79 at yahoo.com writes:
> 
> Sandy,  'sorry; I didn't notice that it was
> directed just to me;  Yes it did 
> show  up.  And, I felt bad for your kid :)  ....bobf
> 
> 
> --- On  Fri, 10/17/08, Bunjov at aol.com
> <Bunjov at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> > From:  Bunjov at aol.com <Bunjov at aol.com>
> > Subject: [Homestead] Fwd:   Pokeweed
> > To: homestead at lists.ibiblio.org
> > Date: Friday, October  17, 2008, 8:04 PM
> > Hi, Bob -
> > I had meant this to go to the  list, also - did it
> ever show
> > up?
> > Sandy
> >  Mid-Mojave
> >  
> >  
> >   
> >  ____________________________________
> >  From: Bunjov
> > To:  bobford79 at yahoo.com
> > Sent: 10/17/2008 5:21:41 P.M.  Pacific  Standard Time
> > Subj: Re: [Homestead] Pokeweed
> > 
> > 
> >  They do indeed exist. I've priced them on Ebay
> and they
> > go for a   gazillion 
> > dollars. At one time I had a priceless collection  of
> > 45's, given to  me by the 
> > owner of the local 'dive',  who was a good
> friend.
> > My youngest son and his best friend, in their 
> mid-teens
> > (experimenting  with 
> > alcohol - or something!)  decided to play Frisbee with
> > oncoming traffic  one 
> >  midnight in the middle of Van Nuys Blvd.
> > Needless to say, you can  imagine his dismay when I
> let him
> > rot in jail  until 
> > his  court date.
> > Karma lives, and I'm it.
> > Sandy
> >  Mid-Mojave
> >  
> >  
> > In a message dated 10/17/2008  5:12:18 P.M. Pacific
> Standard
> > Time,  
> > bobford79 at yahoo.com  writes:
> > 
> > I  remember the song, Sandy.  On every  jukebox (Do
> > jukeboxes still  exist?)
> > I just googled to  see what year the song came out and
> was
> > made  curious by 
> >  the blurb about poke salad, which it said should be
> said
> > "poke   sallet" (from 
> > some old  english word that means 'cooked' 
> greens).
> > I  don't remember if people pronounced it one way 
> or
> > the other  ...bobford
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Fri,  10/17/08, Bunjov at aol.com 
> > <Bunjov at aol.com> wrote:
> >  
> > > From: Bunjov at aol.com  <Bunjov at aol.com>
> > >  Subject: [Homestead] Pokeweed
> > > To:   homestead at lists.ibiblio.org
> > > Date: Friday, October 17, 2008,  6:01  PM
> > > There are photos and more information on the 
> site.
> > >  Doesn't anyone remember  
> > > the song  - maybe mid-seventies -  "Poke
> Salad
> > > Annie"?
> > >  Sandy
> > > Mid-Mojave
> > >   
> > >  _http://www.altnature.com/gallery/pokeweed.htm_ 
> > >   (http://www.altnature.com/gallery/pokeweed.htm)
> 
> > >    
> > >  
> > > Pokeweed
> > > Phytolacca   americana
> > >  Other Names: Poke Salet, American Pokeweed,  
> > Cancer-root,
> > >  Cancer jalap, 
> > > Inkberry,  Pigeon Berry, Pocan, Poke, Poke Root, 
> 
> > Pokeberry,
> > >  Reujin D Ours, 
> > > Sekerciboyaci, Skoke, Virginian   Poke,
> > Yoshu-Yama-Gobo, 
> > > Yyamilin 
> > > Caution :  Toxic when  misused. For  experienced
> > herbalists
> >  > only. Can cause 
> > >  intense vomiting and  diarrhea.  
> > > Habitat
> > > Pokeweed is  a  common perennial  native plant,
> found
> > in
> > > Northern and Central   
> > > N. America from the  New England States to
> Minnesota  
> > and
> > > south to Florida and 
> > > Texas,  naturalized in   Britain and other
> countries.
> >  Growing
> > > in damp rich soils 
> > > in  clearings,  woodland  margins and roadsides.
> > Cultivation:
> > >   Pokeweed is an 
> > > easily grown plant,  succeeding in most  soils 
> and
> > full sun
> > > or partial shade. The 
> >  > stout erect stalk  is  tall, growing to 10 feet
> or
> >  more,
> > > smooth and branching,  
> > > turning deep red  or  purple as the berries ripen
> and 
> > the
> > > plant  matures. The 
> > > root is conical, large  and  fleshy,  covered
> with a
> > thin
> > > brown bark. Leaves are 
> > >  about 5  inches long and 2  to 3 inches wide,
> simple,
> > >  alternate,  
> > > ovate-lanceolate, and smooth. The flowers   which
> 
> > appear
> > > from July to September are 
> > >  long-stalked clusters and  each has 5  whitish
> petals
> >  with
> > > green centers. The fruit is a  
> > > rich deep  purple round berry,  containing a rich
> 
> > crimson
> > >  juice. Gather young 
> > > edible shoots in spring, the   roots  in fall,
> slice
> > and dry
> > > for later use, and  
> > >  berries as they   ripen.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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