[Homestead] Dr. Dr. Give me some news....
EarthNSky
erthnsky at bellsouth.net
Tue Dec 23 19:23:15 EST 2008
You are so smart.
I just googled up one of my meds and oxalates..
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3765223
http://www.springerlink.com/content/q5528w893635j487/
According to that, it seems that my anti-inflammatory helps oxalates.
I take it twice a day. It is the closest thing I take to a pain killer.
But THEN, I found this!!
http://www.chestjournal.org/cgi/content/full/122/5/1858
As it so happens, that finding is from my hometown area-a bit weird
wouldn't ya say?
Anyway about 3/4 of the way down..
> Researchers have demonstrated that these inclusions are primarily
> calcium oxylate crystals.13 14 Some investigators have proposed that
> these crystals play a role in the inflammatory pathway.15 For our
> patient, the role and composition of these inclusions remain to be
> determined, but their existence seems more than coincidental.
>
> The cornerstone of treatment for drug-induced lung injury is drug
> removal. The indications for prednisone are less clear. For this
> case, a distinct and rapid improvement was observed after adding
> prednisone, suggesting a possible role for early prednisone
> initiation when etanercept-induced lung injury is suspected. This
> observation also begs the question whether the true incidence of
> drug-induced injury has been underestimated by the frequent practice
> of combining etanercept with other immune-modulating agents, such as
> prednisone or methotrexate.
Isn't that special?
So the Enbrel, once again, is a probable culprit, and of course, I am
now on prednisone, and it was methotrexate that screwed up my liver to
begin with.
I am just livid.
Thanks a million, Lynda. I am printing this off for the doctor.
Bev
Lynda wrote:
> I'd look to see if you are eating a lot of high oxalate foods along
> with your water problem. Calcium oxalates are a big contender in the
> kidney stone department.
>
> I would wonder if somehow the meds you are taking aren't acting like
> oxalates in that things that are recommended (ginger, cinnamon) for
> RA are high oxalate foods. Seems that stuff might react in the body
> like oxalates do?
>
> Just musing outloud <g> when I had my kidney stone (knocked me to
> the floor), my doc sent me home with enough stuff to read for 10
> people and every now and again some of it bubbles to the surface.
>
> Lynda ----- Original Message ----- From: "EarthNSky"
> <erthnsky at bellsouth.net>
>>
>> And that doesn't sound even close to my symptoms, but I know there
>> are two strains of the stuff.
>>
>> Luckily, the ER doctor, however competent or incompetent he turns
>> out to be(I will know when the culture comes back), did not make a
>> big deal about it at all...no lectures, nothing, just some
>> paperwork and lit about it.
>>
>> Yeah, whatever you got is probably my next antibiotic when the
>> Septra is done. He said that there was one more before IV stuff.
>> Since I started my own suspicion that it might be MRSA, I have self
>> imposed the bleaching routine and have been, for a couple of
>> months now, all kinds of stuff to take extra precautions. There is
>> no way, even if this is 'just staph' that I would want JRose to
>> catch it...no way.
>>
>> My PCP said pretty much the same thing, that it was the diagnosis
>> of the week.
>>
>> Shoot, at the hospital we were lucky that they even found it. I
>> was been discharged when I had to go to the bathroom and the urine
>> was red. Even though I came in with kidney/back pain, they
>> concentrated first on the Keflex drug reaction and then on my
>> liver/gallbladder/pancreas workup. The kidney pain got lost in the
>> shuffle until I called the nurse to see the red. They quickly
>> performed a UA, no culture, and wrapped it up with a nice bow
>> saying that it, too, was MRSA related and that the prescribed
>> antibiotics would also help that.
>>> And, yes, what you describe sounds like a kidney stone. Been
>>> there done that and ain't planning on ever doing it again! The
>>> pain is, IMNSHO <g>, much worse than child birth! UTIs (kidney
>>> infections), on the other hand are merely annoying in comparison.
>>>
>>>
>> I have been very lucky to be almost 50 and to have never had an
>> UTI. I believe that I did pass a stone, because there was a clear
>> break in time when I started to feel better and the pain eased, not
>> to mention the sudden onset of pain out of the blue. I thought
>> the pain of childbirth was a little greater, but this was scarier
>> to me because I did not know what was happening or why and I felt
>> like dying!
>>
>> Get this..last night my best friend called..she had been unaware of
>> all of this...she told me that last Thursday, the day prior to my
>> incident, she got a call from our other neighbor, C, and when she
>> got to C's house, found C on the floor in pain. Turns out C also
>> had a kidney stone. I know they are rather common, but almost
>> everyone around here has had stones, so I think it might be all the
>> calcium in the water. We have very hard water here, everyone is
>> on a well in this karst limestone valley. We all may be getting a
>> bit too much calcium and phosphorus. I'm not sure right now what
>> the solution to that would be other than buying bottled water,
>> which is a thought that is repulsive to me. I like my hard well
>> water, my very own mineral water, and if those minerals really are
>> causing a problem, I need to figure out what I should be doing.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I think the last doc you saw is the go to guy! Sounds like he
>>> didn't go to graduate stick up the arse school!
>> He's a great doc. I've been under treatment for
>> hypothyroidism(Hashimotos) since I was about 15. I can't tell you
>> how many endocrinologists I've seen in multiple states over that
>> time. No one had ever been able to get my thyroid hormones
>> stabilized until I started going to him, and he is a simple general
>> practitioner. He never felt constrained by the medical lit on the
>> subject and not only did he think out of the box, he prescribed
>> out of the box, and as long as I do what I am supposed to do, I
>> feel great and have no trouble.
>>
>> B
>>
>>
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