[Homestead] [Homestead ] MY microcosm of economic downturn
bobford79 at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 22 11:06:16 EST 2008
So, where is the remedy? Surely things can't continue this way. That was my original observation. The picture you just drew was not so much bleak as it is unsustainable. People keep saying that the working/middle/whatever class is too infirm or reluctant for any type of revolt. i'm saying of the construct doesn't change the revolt will be forced, and thwe unintended consequences could actually make things even worse for working people, as difficult as that now seems. It is bad enough to have to worry that you can pay your bills, it is worse to have those same worries while at the same time having lost many of your freedoms. never think I can't lose evrything, quickly, either. It can and has happened to people with much more security than mine................
--- On Mon, 12/22/08, EarthNSky <erthnsky at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> From: EarthNSky <erthnsky at bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] [Homestead ] MY microcosm of economic downturn
> To: bobford79 at yahoo.com, homestead at lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 8:50 AM
> bobf wrote:
> > By the way, Bev. I consider you and I to be the same
> There is no way you are this low on the class totem. Sorry.
> > of this labeling is very frustrating for me. In a few
> years when your mortgage is paid off, and, if the real
> estate prices have picked
> > back up, your net asset value could be larger than
> mine, if I have
> > to spend my capital between now and then. If I lose
> my medical insurance; 2 or 3 bad medical events
> w/hospitilization could completely wipe me out. Never think
> I don't know that fear of being completely
> Even with medical insurance, this latest trip to the ER
> might wipe me out.
> Do you see the contrast?
> Even if my net asset is greater than yours, that
> doesn't feed me or buy
> medicine or pay real estate taxes, which would also be
> greater than
> > I appreciate you taking the time to converse, and
> would like to continue this conversation, but, Bev; I need
> to know you understand, I am not rich, I am middle class;
> and yes I consider anyone who makes
> > less than $200,000 per year middle class if they live
> in the city, but for the past couple of years, I not only
> didn't make that much, if you factor in my losses, I
> lost that much per year.
> I don't think it is as much about income as lifestyle
> and thinking.
> The labeling is no good, but that is all we have so we have
> to make sure
> that we are as specific as we can be. My working class are
> those guys
> like my dh, who punch a clock, maybe a wear a uniform or ID
> badge. In a
> white collar work, they would be the file clerks or the
> and maybe the secretaries, but my SIL is a legal sec in the
> industry and she makes almost 5x as much as dh, so she is
> NOT working
> class, IMO...her jobs has lots of perks, walks around with
> bluetooth in
> her ear 24/7, kids go to private schools, they get a yearly
> ski trip to
> CO, etc. etc. She claims to be in my class, too...no way.
> -- The true significance of Sacajawea's involvement in
> the Lewis & Clark
> expedition is that it was the first documented trip in
> history where men
> asked a woman for directions and followed them, allowing
> them to arrive
> at their destination.
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