[Homestead] National Debt Much > $100 Trillion & the BondMarket Bubble
lurine at softcom.net
Sun Dec 7 00:07:55 EST 2008
It is something to do with Bob's e-mail addy. I have to be sure to hit
reply all or only his addy comes up. I notice that with yahoo accounts
there is sometimes a double (e-mailer and group) that comes up but Bob's
usually only comes up with Bob's e-mail addy. So I always check.
When I hit reply to your e-mail below, both your e-mail addy and homestead
came up in the "to" box.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leslie" <cayadopi at yahoo.com>
Well, that is so odd that 2 emails went to you personally,,, because all
I've been doing is hit reply.........
Other than, which seeds must be started from liners, I didn't really have
any questions today, other than ones that are clearly questions. I suspect
I'll have a lot more questions, once things are actually growing.
I already have received most of my seeds. And would like to hunt down more
heirloom types, so I won't have to order every year. A web link for those
kinds of sights or company names would be great.
--- On Sat, 12/6/08, bob ford <bobford79 at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: bob ford <bobford79 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] National Debt Much > $100 Trillion & the Bond
To: cayadopi at yahoo.com, homestead at lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 6:47 PM
'sounds like you are well on your way. If the right people on the list read
what you wrote below, you might get some suggestions. Once again, I'll
remind you to included the homestead list address in your reply.
This reply came only to me, and I am not even close to the best person for
these type questions. If you haven't erased the post below, re-send it to
the homestead list address .. Thanks for all of the info; 'sounds like you
are probably on the right list
--- On Sat, 12/6/08, Leslie <cayadopi at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Well, W/F 53, divorced. My only son killed at age 21, and I have a 28
y.o. daughter in Miami. 1 year ed college -operating room. I specialized in
open heart and trauma (before they called it trauma). Coincidentally in
my son died of massive trauma, and my daughter 11 months later
> nearly died from a heart problem.
w/ the Ex... small biz's owner, oddball collection ofbusinesses. Private
investigations (40 investigators employed, plus staff), had a 30 year
to recycle all of Miami-Dade county trash and came up with a new approach to
scrap metal density that pissed off a lot of people :-)
... (company sold long ago in partner wars), had a chemical/pool & paper
goods supply customers in the Keys- a purchase of a company pending
bankruptcy for $500.00 (what a coup), and a fresh water lobster farm in
Ecuador, and a number of other small biz not worth mentioning (more
accurately, the mind is slipping and I can't remember them all..... LOL I
was the controller
I got 3 months intensive lessons from a client who oweowed owed.... enough
do small biz accounting.) Hyperinflation in Ec. nearly wiped us out.
Hurricane Andrew, right thru the eye, was NOT fun. Neither were 6-8
> other hurricanes over the years.
> No fishing in the desert. There is hunting around here, sheep/antelope,
but I haven't looked into it yet.
I have prepped 4 garden areas at my parents' place, all located near
existing water supplies. Still have to build fences this winter to keep the
rabbits out. Neighbors have lots of free manure, which the local ext. office
suggested to improve the sand. I've spent a lot of time lately
figuring out how many feet to plant to get X yield, and how to preserve
calculating out how many canning jars toorder, etc. (I already know how to
and freeze food, did this a lot when I was a kid and young adult.)
At the moment, except for the distraction today.... I've been working on
garden layout, by soil needs, watering, time of year to plant etc. to
it in a way I feel will be logical. My dad is sort of helping me
construct irrigation that works for this area... sprinklers waste to much.
(IE he sits and tells me what to do.)
I've grown pet rabbits, and want to switch to NZ and/orCA. I already know
how to build the cages. Just got acatalog in the mail, and the pre-fab ones
are way too expensive. Bev has suggested a few other breeds
also. I need to track down a couple of local breeders to see what they have,
otherwise will have to travel to locate. Rabbits are a lot easier to dress
than chicken. Also, alfalfa grows here locally and it would be no problem at
all to grow "rabbit food" right here, as it grows most of the year
here from what I've seen so far.
> I've grown chickens for food & eggs in the past, that is a
cinch. I just need to build a different kind of chicken house than I had in
Homestead. Another winter project. Was out scavenging for some free wood
last week,but I don't think it is really suitable, too aged and
too warped at this point.
We have wind storms here in the spring, and that could prove to be a
problem. I planted onions when I first moved here,,,, I was SOOOO excited
they were growing beautifully, and one day a haboob hit, and flattened the
tops... so I wound up with pearl onions by accident...
I made a list of the foods I normally eat in a year, and from there have
calculated out about how much not only I eat, but my parents and brother
we're all here.
I also figured that I would grow field corn and get a grinder to make
food, and corn meal.
I have thought about goats, but that will require me to build a different
of fence around the gardens. I do like goat milk & cheese and suspect they
would be good for weed control on the rest of the property. One of the
neighbors has sheep & a couple of beef cows. I bet it
is really expensive the way she is feeding them.
> We've got pecan trees also.
Also for food storage, suspect stuff grown in the springtime needs to be
or frozen, as it gets pretty hot in the summer (not as bad as AZ though) and
then stuff harvested in the fall can include things that can be stored in
garage, etc. Dried beans, winter squash, etc.
I'm sure there is going to be a big learning curve on what grows best at
which time of the year. I'm starting with "have instructions, will
follow" and from there ask some locals.
Oh, also, I'm ordering Red Worms to put in a pile to eat up the kitchen
leftovers etc and use the end results for fertilizer. Ditto for chicken and
Bev has given me a lot information that supplements the information gleaned
from the internet. I'd like to avoid commercial fertilizers and pest
>From what I've heard so far, just about everything grows here. Except
I've been warned I might not have much luck with peas.
The wish list would include a green house, or something that I can start the
liners in before I set them out. I haven't seen greenhouses here like they
have in S. FL at all... and suspect that is due to the spring winds that
I lived for 4 months w/out electricty (only a generator to bring water up
from the well) after Andrew. Fortunately, after the roads were cleared we
could drive about 30 miles north to get food supplies. It is hard to imagine
what it would be like in some kind of economic disaster where you
could not drive a few towns over to get supplies. Food storage
(refrigeration) was a real problem after Andrew.
I hope that those kind of extremes don't happen again. But if it does, at
least I know a little bit about that.
I don't really know any people out here yet. Have met a few. Did meet
one couple that seem pretty interesting, they were selling silver eagles at
I suspect after I get the prep work done, the next thing coming up soon,
be WHICH PLANTS MUST BE STARTED IN LINERS, and which seeds can I just plant
the ground. The more of the later, the better since I don't have a
greenhouse. Although mom says I can borrow the apartment windows,,,, as the
apartment is fairly warm and has a goodsouthern exposure.
> --- On Sat, 12/6/08, bob ford <bobford79 at yahoo.com>
> From: bob ford <bobford79 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] National Debt Much > $100
> Trillion & the Bond Market Bubble
> To: cayadopi at yahoo.com, homestead at lists.ibiblio.org
> Date: Saturday, December 6, 2008, 3:59 PM
> When you please, and if you please; tell us more about
> yourself and your
> homestead and how you plan to farm/fish/hunt/raise animals,
> etc. on your
> tell as much, or as little as you please; or nothing at all
> if that is what
> pleases you. With more information, though, some might
> have some helpful
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