[Homestead] Our digital trail - "Orwellian future"
Lynn Wigglesworth
lynnw1366 at hotmail.com
Mon Dec 1 15:17:20 EST 2008
This article, dated Nov. 13, 2008 says that Homeland Security has proposed
new rules, but implies that they haven't taken effect yet.
http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2008/11/13/homeland-security-will-track-fertilizer-buyers/
Lynn Wigglesworth
----- Original Message -----
From: "bob ford" <bobford79 at yahoo.com>
To: "Lynn Wigglesworth" <lynnw1366 at hotmail.com>;
<homestead at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail - "Orwellian future"
> Lynn , it was signed into law last December, The following was taken from
> the 2005 Act and incorporated into the 2008 Act I guess it just took a
> democrat congress. ' from within the Act:
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> "Amends HSA to direct the Secretary to: (1) regulate the sale and transfer
> of ammonium nitrate to prevent its misappropriation or use in a terrorist
> act; (2) establish a threshold percentage for a substance to be treated as
> ammonium nitrate; (3) establish a process by which ammonium nitrate
> facility owners and ammonium nitrate purchasers are required to register
> with DHS and are issued a registration number; and (4) require facility
> owners to maintain a record of each sale or transfer of ownership of
> ammonium nitrate for two years. Sets forth provisions regarding: (1)
> exempting persons producing, selling, or purchasing ammonium nitrate
> exclusively for use as an explosive material under a federal explosives
> license; (2) ensuring that access of agricultural producers to ammonium
> nitrate is not unduly burdened; (3) restricting the disclosure of
> information obtained under this section; (4) inspecting and auditing
> facility owner records to prevent the
> misappropriation of ammonium nitrate; and (5) timely reporting of the
> theft or unexplained loss of ammonium nitrate.
> Prohibits: (1) buying and taking possession of ammonium nitrate, or owning
> or operating an ammonium nitrate facility, without a registration number;
> or (2) failing to comply with any requirement of this section. Prescribes
> a civil penalty. Sets forth provisions regarding protections from civil
> liability and preemption. Sets deadlines for regulations. Authorizes
> appropriations. "
>
> ""H.R. 1680: Secure Handling of Ammonium Nitrate Act of 2007
> To authorize the Secretary of Homeland Security to regulate the sale of
> ammonium nitrate to prevent and deter the acquisition of ammonium nitrate
> by terrorists, and for other purposes.
>
> Last Action: Dec 26, 2007: Provisions of Measure Incorporated into Section
> 563 of Title V of Division E of H.R. 2764. "
>
> H.R.2764 ...... Signed by the President on December 26, 2007
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> --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Lynn Wigglesworth <lynnw1366 at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail - "Orwellian future"
>> To: bobford79 at yahoo.com, homestead at lists.ibiblio.org
>> Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 9:42 AM
>> If you read those links, they "urge" and
>> "request" that suspicious activity be reported.
>> The Secure Handling of Ammonium Nitrate Act of 2005 was
>> never passed into law. There are no reporting requirements,
>> as far as I could see.
>>
>> Lynn Wigglesworth
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob ford"
>> <bobford79 at yahoo.com>
>> To: <homestead at lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Our digital trail -
>> "Orwellian future"
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>> > Click on this link , Lynn. This was a simple 7 second
>> search . Still, I could have used better
>> example........bobford
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=what+are+the+reporting+requirements+to+atf+for+large+purchases+of+fetilizer%3F&btnG=Search
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>> > --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Lynn Wigglesworth
>> <lynnw1366 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I only know what it's like here; anyone could
>> fill up
>> >> barrels with diesel fuel and pay cash without
>> raising a single question. You can get receipts for cash
>> purchases; I do it all the time for tax purposes.
>> >>
>> >> I feel bad if reporting people is common where you
>> are...it isn't here. But clearly you will believe what
>> you want, what supports your world view.
>> >>
>> >> Lynn Wigglesworth
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