Cat's Cradle & Durham?
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Thu Sep 18 18:34:37 EDT 2008
So what acts would we see if there was a thousand seat space?
> It all sounds like a bunch of hooey to me. Specifically, the type of
> hooey that developers toss around when they're getting frustrated at
> local opposition to their projects. Sort of like "well, we appreciate
> your concerns, but if we don't get the green-light to proceed with our
> project by FRIDAY then circumstances beyond our control might force us
> to build a Wal-Mart with on-premise strip club instead."
> Except since it's Carrboro we're talking about, and the developers
> probably aren't evil, but rather just getting impatient with some
> late-term naysayers who apparently didn't bother to raise their concerns
> during any of the opportunities for public input over the past 3 years
> (remember this thread?
> ), the doomsaying takes the somewhat more passive-aggressive form of
> Laura Van Sant making vague statements about how she sure hopes the
> Cradle doesn't up and move to Durham due to the uncertainty surrounding
> the development.
> Or, to quote (extensively) from the Schultz & Menconi article in the
> ------- begin quote -----------
> A developer proposing the renovation of the nightclub's East Main Street
> shopping center urged the Carrboro Board of Aldermen to approve the
> project Tuesday night, saying any further delay could send Cradle owner
> Frank Heath packing.
> "It's absolutely an integral part of our project," Laura Van Sant said
> in an interview Wednesday. "It is a fact he has landlords in Durham
> offering him free space."
> But it's not clear that delaying the 300 East Main Street project would
> force the Cradle to leave Carrboro. In an e-mail statement, Heath said
> he gets regular inquiries about relocating the Cradle to a larger space
> in one of the Triangle's other cities.
> "It can get a bit frustrating knowing that our current spot really is
> where this venue needs to stay, while also knowing that we could benefit
> from a larger space," Heath wrote.
> When asked about Van Sant's claim he'd been offered rent-free space in
> Durham, Heath answered that it was more along the lines of booking shows
> elsewhere than a space of his own to operate as Cat's Cradle.
> --------- close quote -----------
> I'm not attempting to predict the future, but what I *am* saying is that
> this project has been in the works for well over three years, and while
> I'm sure Frank Heath has done a good job of formulating contingency
> plans, the fact that he hasn't moved before now would indicate that he's
> unlikely to up & move just because the project is *not* moving ahead.
> And just to provide background that's missing from the current coverage:
> the plan, as it was explained to me, was for the Cradle to move into the
> Performance Bikes space once it came time to bulldoze the stripmall
> itself, and then eventually move into a custom-built space near the back
> corner of the project, along with the ArtsCenter.
> Obviously grandiose plans such as those are exactly the sorts of things
> to get amended &/or jettisoned once time & money get tight, and it would
> be nice to see the coverage address some of that.
> Our friend Dave Menconi is fond of citing the shows that *don't* hit the
> Triangle due to the lack of a ~1000-seat venue, but unless there's a
> 1000-capacity building with all the requisites (parking, plumbing, etc)
> just sitting unused in Durham or elsewhere, I don't think that's going
> to play into this particular decision.
> One other bit of missing information: what's the planned capacity of the
> "new" Cradle that's featured in the plans for the East Main development?
> Gary Miller wrote:
>> I was walking down the hallway in my building today and spied a
>> headline on the front of the Daily Tar Heel that caught my eye:
>> "Durham Eyes Cat's Cradle"
>> The article is about the proposed development at 300 E. Main St. and
>> quotes someone from Main Street Properties as saying "He's literrly
>> getting offered free space by folks in Durham." The "he" in that
>> sentence is Frank. Frank is quoted as saying he's keeping his options
>> open. "Given the uncertainty with regards to the timing and future of
>> the Carrboro project, Cat's Cradle is trying to keep an open mind
>> about any future locations and configurations for the club." It goes
>> on to say he's isn't currently planning to move the venue.
>> I realize I'm probably way out of the loop. But, although I knew
>> about the development, this is the first I've heard about the impact
>> it could potentially have on the Cradle's location, esp. being
>> recruited by Durham.
>> Anyone else?
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