Nike to Minor Threat: up yrs

grady grady at ibiblio.org
Tue Jun 28 12:42:36 EDT 2005


I felt like throwing up a little, too, which sort of surprised me. 
Looking at those 100s of album cover hacks fixed me right up, though. 
There's no co-optation like voluntary co-optation, after all, and irony 
fixes everything. Right? I'm just waiting for it to fix politics.

xo

Ross

Bo Williams wrote:
> Wait wait, aren't we all supposed to be inured to advertising in this
> generation? Damn it, who changed the rules and didn't tell me?
> 
> Bo
> 
> p.s. The day I have significant emotional responses to a Nike ad is
> going to be a sad day all around.
> 
> On 6/28/05, Fikri Yucel <fikri_y at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>>Fucking Nike can take its apology and shove it.
>>
>>Culture jamming and two-way streets and what is or is
>>not permissible legally or morally--fuck all of that.
>>Everything is permissible.  Fine.  I get it.
>>
>>But that ad made me feel a little more dead inside.  I
>>felt like throwing up when I saw it.  So, up yrs too
>>Nike.  Apology not accepted.
>>
>>
>>--- Chris Rossi <nospam at spacelabstudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>A coworker from many years ago taught me it's
>>>usually easier to
>>>apologize than to ask permission.  Maybe that guy
>>>works at Nike now.
>>>They've certainly already gotten their money's
>>>worth.
>>>
>>>chris
>>>
>>>
>>>5er (martin) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>NIKE apologizes:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/05-06/28.shtml
>>>>
>>>>Really, it was all a big misunderstanding.
>>>>They were paying a homage to Minor threat and
>>>
>>>Discord.
>>>
>>>>Can you not forgive them?
>>>>
>>>>-5er
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--- grady <grady at ibiblio.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The New Left:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2005/06/27/technology/techspecial3/27grokster.jpg
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Chris Calloway wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>--- grady <grady at ibiblio.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>>http://ilx.p3r.net/thread.php?msgid=5942033#unread
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>wow. despite the crappy photoshopping, some of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>those
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>were pretty funny. brought back many forgotten
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>album
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>covers, from the days when there were, like,
>>>
>>>album
>>>
>>>>>>covers. i really liked the throbbing teletubbies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>i somewhat agree with todd. to me the thing about
>>>>>>major threat is it will get some folks who would
>>>>>>ordinarily be anti-IP to get all worked up about
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>minor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>threat's IP. And it will put a heavily branded
>>>>>>corporation in the position of being anti-IP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>strange.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>anyway, yeah, the thing about culture jamming is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>it works two ways and the "reverse" direction is
>>>>>>usually gonna have more horsepower and effect. i
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>can't
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>think of anything about the right wing's pr these
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>days
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>that doesn't draw heavily from avant garde
>>>
>>>leftist
>>>
>>>>>>aesthetics of the early 20th century. and i think
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>was one lesson many latter 20th century
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>post-leftists
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>were trying to impart. culture jamming for the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>left
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>ends up being just a list of entertainingly
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>detourned
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>album covers. throbbing teletubbies, chortle,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>hyuck!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>not that minor threat had anything to do with the
>>>>>>left. or sometimes they did, if you remember
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"meese is
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>a pig." it's just all mixed up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>talk about the days of album covers, glenn boothe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>was
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>on the air today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>3
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"A boy wants a car from his dad.
>>>>Dad says, first you got to cut that hair.
>>>>Boys says, hey dad Jesus had long hair.
>>>>Dad says, That's right son, and Jesus walked
>>>
>>>everywhere."
>>>
>>>>- David Berman/The Silver Jews
>>>>
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