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grady at ibiblio.org
Tue Jan 11 17:15:16 EST 2005
Yeh, but I think, if I read Woody correctly, he's asking what the new
non-derivative "rock" is. I mean, yes, there was sometimes a grain of
truth to the "Polvo bite Sonic Youth hard" accusation, at least
superficially, but at root it was fairly off-the-mark inasmuch as Polvo
seemed really to be working in a whole different direction.
But apart from the occasional SY and/or Savage Republic comparison,
Polvo seemed to be breaking new ground, or at least doing their
damnedest to attempt it, in the field of 2-gtrs+bass+drums+vox "rock" music.
& so I think Woody is asking if anybody is still trying to come up with
new vocabularies for that basic "rock" combination or if everything has
pro/regressed to recombination of chunks of previous eras. Certainly the
stuff that's getting the press/attention/airplay seems to be
by-and-large blenderizing the 70s/early 80s. To the extent that it
attempts to toss wildly different genres into the blender, it's still
interesting, but it's not working in the same uncharted-territories vein
that Polvo were.
I suppose one could extend the Lightning Bolt/brutal prog thing to
include stuff like the Locust, although that's just Locust:Devo::Anal
Cunt:Metallica, or something.
I'm glad Woody asked the question, too, as my ears are getting really
weary of "rock" with guitars, particularly in all its seemingly-infinite
70s-retreading of late.
But I dunno the answer. I wish Fugazi would tour again so I could get
over myself & remember how much I love smart punkrock, regardless of
subgenre allegiances or influence. Although I suppose one could argue
that Fugazi have consistently tried to stay a step or two ahead of
whatever genre was chasing them.
Chris Rossi wrote:
> Electronica is the new post-rock. At least, as near as I can tell from
> eavesdropping on my roommates.
> Woody wrote:
>> I had to think of you good folks recently as I just picked up the above
>> mention Polvo album used last week and suddenly its 2005 and I'm
>> listening to way too much Polvo again. Richard chimed in recently
>> about current musings so I will too...
>> at first, I wasn't sure if I was nostalgic for the rock of an earlier
>> era but I think Polvo sort of symbolizes the last breath of modernism
>> in rock... maybe? I mean like Polvo was actively working on a
>> development of some sort of new music or new guitar work or some sort
>> of furthering of the rock genre. I mean there were a number of Chapel
>> Hill bands that while referenced the rock past, had something of a new
>> sound. I'm just saying this in reference to the ummm post-rock to
>> I mean Polvo faded out as Tortoise sort of became the CMJ darlings.
>> Tortoise on the other hand, with the exception of their 1st cd, is more
>> or less just a combination of a number of 70s bands. Following
>> Tortoise, is a slew of bands now combining their favorite moments from
>> the 60s, 70s, and 80s or are just hyper-stylized versus content.
>> While not qualifying any of these developments, am I just out of it as
>> far as interesting new rock or am I right that indie rock or whatever
>> has made the transition from formalist developments to
>> recontextualization of its past? I mean the late 90s saw Storm and
>> Stress and all those Kranky bands taking rock away from its rhtymic
>> constraints and Polvo challenging melodic content (in ways much
>> different than the no wave 20 years before). Am I making sense? What
>> I am missing going on now that counts as rock other than Lightning Bolt
>> and brutal prog?
>> PS. Uncle Woody Sullender @ Nightlight March 3
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