here's a thought...
bo at mrboboto.com
Thu Nov 4 13:40:59 EST 2004
Hooray for fatalism! Might as well just kill yourself now.
> Oh, there will be real political change; it will start with a couple of
> Supreme Court appointments (or 3, or 4, worst-case).
> Once the SCOTUS rubber-stamp has been inked up real good, politics will
> change in ways that most of us can't even imagine.
> p.s. I'm not going anywhere, but it's not because I'm particularly
> optimistic about the future. More because I don't know that it's
> possible to run fast/far enough to get out from under. Kinda like that
> scene at the end of that disaster movie with Morgan Freeman as President
> when the comet pieces hit the earth and cause a giant tidal wave and
> TV-news estranged-from-dad lady goes and makes up with her dad & then
> they stand on the beach & watch the tidal wave coming & then wham. Or
> something like that.
> Bo Williams wrote:
>> I'm giving people a one-week grace period to vent their escapist
>> fantasies. After that, either roll up your sleeves and get to work, or
>> quit whining.
>> Me, I'm optimistic that this will be the kick in the pants this
>> country needs to get some real political change started. But I've
>> certainly been wrong before. I plan to be a lot more active in the
>> next four years than I was in the last four, at least.
>> Chris Calloway wrote:
>>> --- grady <grady at ibiblio.org> wrote:
>>>> Sure, but they don't let those cultural differences
>>>> prevent them from, say, providing health care to every Canadian
>>> It would be nice for Merkins to acknowledge that
>>> health care is a security issue. It hardly matters if
>>> you die of a plane flying into your building or if you
>>> die of the flu. You are just as dead both ways and
>>> both are just as preventable.
>>> Canada is indeed an exceedingly complex place.
>>> Dude, Democrats are way better cooks than Republicans.
>>> Anyone who leaves this country without having been
>>> some GOTV superhero who quit their job to go volunteer
>>> in Florida for the last year is just being a dick.
>>> Most of the people I know saying they have to leave
>>> the country are of the "I'm campaigning by forwarding
>>> lots of emails" ilk. I say, don't let the door hit you
>>> on the way out.
>>> PS - A friend of mine has a rather famous dad and
>>> wrote this today (and yes, admittedly he left out the
>>> fact that what happened in Chile was supported and
>>> aided by the USA):
>>> I left Chile in 1973 after the military coup. My
>>> father was in hiding, running from his life, doors
>>> were being knocked at midnight and people dragged away
>>> in front of their children in unmarked cars in the
>>> middle of the night. Often times the children were
>>> taken too and tortured in front of the parents.
>>> You know the story, repeated all over the world.
>>> But not here.
>>> My mother who lived those times, never thought Kerry
>>> had a chance. She believed too many Americans were
>>> ignorant and brain washed. But she was very surprised
>>> that Kerry got almost 50% of the vote. She thought
>>> only 10% of Americans were conscious. She is very
>>> happy that she was wrong. We have a lot of people who
>>> are awake.
>>> This is a country filled with beautiful people. I have
>>> been looking for a place to settle down and fight the
>>> continuation of what was robbed to me in 1973 - the
>>> possibility of joining/creating a community determined
>>> to fight and struggle for a world where we ride the
>>> moral arc of the universe. It's a moral arc that MLK
>>> said was long, but it bent towards justice.
>>> The problem with democrats is that we think short
>>> This may be related to our distancing from spiritual
>>> In any case, we must think long term.
>>> Long term means that we believe we can build a better
>>> world right here in our communties. That we are ready
>>> to wait and see what the garden brings and trust that
>>> we will be rewarded.
>>> I would consider leaving the USA only and only IF I
>>> knew that we were in a situation where someone was
>>> going to knock at my door in the middle of the
>>> night and drag me away. We're not there.
>>> Let me share with you one of my favorite poems by
>>> Bertolt Brecht who wrote of the "dark times".
>>> AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT
>>> And I always thought: the very simplest
>>> must be enough. When I say what things are
>>> Everyone's heart must be torn to shreds.
>>> That you'll go down if you don't stand up
>>> for yourself
>>> Surely you see that.
>>> Bertolt Brecht
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