[Cc-uk] collecting societies and creative commons
Cory Doctorow
doctorow at craphound.com
Fri Oct 15 08:14:09 EDT 2004
I think that that was Finland -- it wasn't that they forbade CC
licensing, but rather insisted that any distribution, save through the
author's website (i.e., not via P2P or other low-cost alternatives to
hosting large audio files) would disqualify members from ALL rolayties.
They've since abandoned that position (yay!).
WRT colelcting societies in the UK; there's nothing about CC that's
inherently inimical to collecting societies. It's true that a CC
licensed pool of material would be exempt from royalties in
noncommercial contexts. This material doesn't displace revenue --
generally, noncommercial venues are exempt from collecting society fees
anyway.
There IS a minority of commercial-use-permitted CC material that might
displace some collecting-society material, but that's not a major
problem. In most instances, we can imagine that a traditional
collecting society venue (say, a pub or a concert hall) takes out its
license not because no public domain material will be performed there,
but because SOME non-PD material will be played there.
It's conceivable, I suppose, that someone might create a (commercial?
noncommercial?) service aggregating CC-licensed material and creating a
"radio station" for hairdressers, bars, and other venues that are now
subject to a collective license offered for a lower cost than the
license, but at that point, the collecting society is in the position
of objecting to CC because it creates a competitive market in
collective licenses; hardly a sympathetic argument!
On Oct 15, 2004, at 1:04 PM, Rufus Pollock wrote:
> Recently someone raised the question of the attitude of collecting
> societies to Creative Commons. Under (some) CC licenses the collecting
> society, I believe, will not receive any revenue. Is this correct and
> if so will collecting societies oppose CC licenses? For example it was
> said that in Germany the main collecting society had forbidden its
> members to release CC work (is this true?).
>
> Regards,
>
> Rufus Pollock
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