[cc-licenses] Collecting societies (and PROs)
Rob Myers
rob at robmyers.org
Fri Apr 20 14:54:50 EDT 2012
On 04/16/2012 01:38 PM, zotz at 100jamz.com wrote:
>
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 20:57:12 +0100, Rob Myers<rob at robmyers.org> wrote:
>> On 04/10/2012 02:19 PM, drew Roberts wrote:
>>>
>>> There is no reason why BY or BY-SA should be incompatible either.
>>
>> There is because it clashes with how collecting societies operate at the
>> moment.
>
> Right, but this is their choice, not some fundamental law of the
> universe. There is no reason they could not adapt if they wanted to.
Agreed.
>> If I belong to a collecting society, and I license my work
>> BY-SA, then there is a contradiction between the society's right to
>> collect on the copyrights of my work, and your right to use the work
>> Free-as-in-Freedom way.
>
> Only because they insist on being exclusive.
>
> Say I put two licenses on my song.
>
>
> 1. CC BY-SA
> 2. Some license crafted for my CS/PRO that they love.
>
>
> They can just ignore the BY-SA and enforce license #2. The ones I know
> about give blanket licenses for everything they license for a set
> percentage of revenue. (For example from a music playing oriented radio
> station.) So they just collect on license #2 from their licensees and
> give me my cut. People playing only Free Licensed music would not need
> to enter into a license with them and so they could not collect under
> #2. People playing a mix of Free and non-Free music would need to enter
> into a license with them and they could then collect on license #2.
>
> Flaws in this thinking?
This would be parallel distribution of the copyrighted work (which is
fine), and it would be interesting if it did work like this. i.e. I send
the ARR copy to radio stations and put the BY-SA copy on The Pirate Bay,
and the PRO collects royalties on the former. I assume it does, but IANAL.
- Rob.
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