[cc-licenses] When will the BY-SA 4.0 draft be out?
Andres Guadamuz
anduril13 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 9 18:26:31 EDT 2012
I've had experience porting CC licences in two jurisdictions, and I can
attest to the fact that it is much easier to port from BY-NC-SA. It is
easier to discuss a licence that has all the elements already, and then
work backwards from the final text of that licence into the other 5
documents.
I tried briefly to do a discussion on 6 licences during the drafting of
the Costa Rican port, and it was a nightmare to keep track of everything.
Andres
On 09/04/2012 15:33, Diane Peters wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
>
> To the contrary, this is not our intention at all. The fact that we
> published BY-NC-SA as the draft for review has nothing to do with a
> preference for NC licenses over any of the others, and everything to do
> with the reality that BY-NC-SA contains all the elements of the other 5
> licenses.[1] At this early stage in the process, we felt that publishing
> one license with all of the elements was better than producing all six
> given the number of open issues that will need to be carried through to
> the others. Those on this list who have gone through the porting process
> are well familiar with the exercise of mechanically building the licenses.
>
> That said, it’s true that it could be misinterpreted as such for those
> who work primarily with BY and BY-SA.Again, this wasn’t our intention,
> but I should have made that more clear.Thanks for calling attention to this.
>
>
> Diane
>
>
> [1] The exceptions are the definition of Creative Commons Compatible
> License, and including a reference to that in the SA clause. For
> details see:
> http://wiki.creativecommons.org/4.0/Draft_1#Provisions_for_other_Licenses_in_the_Suite
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Ben Finney
> <bignose+hates-spam at benfinney.id.au
> <mailto:bignose%2Bhates-spam at benfinney.id.au>> wrote:
>
> Diane Peters <diane at creativecommons.org
> <mailto:diane at creativecommons.org>>
> writes:
>
> > Thanks for raising this. As you know, BY-SA is derived from
> BY-NC-SA
> > Draft 1, but with NC provisions removed and the relevant SA-related
> > provisions added.
>
> That's rather distressing. Why is the non-free NC clause given such
> primacy in the process?
>
> How can we convince you to focus primarily on free-culture licenses,
> like CC-BY and CC-BY-SA, and derive the non-free licenses (if people
> want them) from those free licenses?
>
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> Ben Finney
>
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