[cc-licenses] NC considered harmful? Prove it...
teun.spaans at gmail.com
Thu Mar 8 05:29:19 EST 2007
While understanding the rational behind NC, I feel there might be many
potential contributors who want to donate some of their images to non
commercial projects, but dont give away their stuff for free: It doesnt feel
right if I put a lot of effort in making a series of photographs, and others
start making money out of it.
Another category of people who might prefer this type of license are
profesional photographers. While cleaning up old images on the dutch wiki, I
remember at least one professional photographer who, after being contacted
by email, refused to change his license from some CC-NC to
CC-BY-SA.Consequently, we alas had to remove his excellent photos.
I agree with Eriks argument that such an effort might be an island standing
not much chance of survival. But if such a "commons" would be succesful in
the sense of attracting many contributors, it might spawn of similar sites
for text, sound, software and so on. If it would be the first island of an
archipelago, it might be the start of something new.
I wish you health and happiness,
On 3/8/07, Antoine <antoine at pitrou.net> wrote:
> > In
> > other words, the claim is that they are either "do not produce a
> > commons" or "produce an ineffective commons". This is mostly based on
> > theory, though.
> > Now I want to prove it. You know, with *evidence*. ;-)
> You want (factual) evidence but (rational) proof is enough.
> To have an answer to your question you need to define the word "commons".
> Then the answer to "does NC produce a commons?" will be obvious.
> Then I'll give my answer:
> A "commons" is composed of things which can be reused fairly and honestly.
> Getting retribution for one's work obviously seems fair and honest. NC
> doesn't allow it (I can't get retribution for my derivative of an NC
> work), so NC doesn't create a commons.
> Note :
> The irony is where the word "commons" comes from:
> The Wikipedia article does not mention any "non-commercial" limitation to
> the "number of traditional rights" which could be exercised by the
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