[cc-licenses] collection societies

Jamison Young jam at jamyoung.net
Mon Aug 27 07:27:49 EDT 2007


Hi CC mailing list,

Last week I got an email that talks about a new type of CC license  
that is able to be used in conjunction with collection societies in  
the Netherlands for a trail period. This CC license that is to be  
potentially adopted by the collection society shall allow the  
licensor to choose the way that a commercial use shall be defined (if  
i read the press release the right way). The choice takes place  
within the Burma/Stemra system. So I'm thinking that Burma/Stremra  
are going to decide what a commercial use is.

"In order to make this possible Buma/Stemra will - upon request -  
retransfer the rights needed for using a non-commercial CC licenses  
to their members. This happens online (on their website) and is  
stored in their internal processing and administration systems. the  
whole process takes about 30 seconds per song." extract from press  
release CC Netherlands.

If the collection societies are able to create a CC license with a  
definition of what a commercial use is, what is the effect of this ?

I reckon that creating a CC license that can adapt to anything is a  
good idea. Yet this is something new to the way I see CC and is this  
not a new form of licensing all together ?

Also:
I'm still relatively new to CC licensing, so maybe I have  
misinterpreted the situation. My view at the moment is that very few  
music artists (outside the US) have heard about CC, to create  
something without a reasonable demand is not easy, yet I agree its  
maybe possible.

thought:
 From talkin with artists in Australia through http://www.myspace.com/ 
optoutofAPRA it seems that the only income that very much more than  
most "Self Published" artists are able to get is through "Live  
Performance". also,  some artists have said that they are upset that  
non-profit clubs/venues/spaces end up having to pay for the use of  
content. So question is.
If an artist performs works in a non-profit space, does that non- 
profit venue still have to pay the collection societies for use of  
that artists works ? that is if the artist has licenses that/those  
works with a CC license.

The above question was in the context of what is happening with Burma/ 
Strema. can someone from CC Netherlands please answer the above  
though. If possible.

best,
Jamison








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