[cc-licenses] SoundExchange, 2.5 and 3.0 licenses

Liz Berg lizb at wfmu.org
Tue Aug 7 12:44:46 EDT 2007


Thanks for clearing this up, Paul. I didn't realize that the links I was 
following from the license explanation page all lead to the unported 
versions. I found a link to the 2.5 U.S. license from another site, and 
was thus confused by the differences. This helps immensely!

-Liz

> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 18:15:45 +0200
> From: Paul Keller <pk at kl.nl>
> Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] SoundExchange, 2.5 and 3.0 licenses
> To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts
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> Dear Liz,
> i think you are making a mistake here. you are comparing the generic
> 2.5 licenses with the unported 3.0 licenses. The generic licenses
> where essentially US licenses based on US copyright law. The unported
> 3.0 licenses are intended for jurisdictions that do not have a ported
> version of the CC licenses. As of 3.0 there is a US version of the CC
> licenses and these licenses do contain the same provisions regarding
> mechanical and performance royalties as the generic 2.5 licenses.
> have a look at:
>
> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/us/legalcode  and
> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/us/legalcode
>
> (note that the provisions are different for NC and non-NC licenses).
>
> The term non-waivable coplulsory licensing schemes has been
> introduced to deal with things like levies on blank media that are
> collected in many European jurisdictions to reimburse authors for
> private copying of their works. these shcemes are non-waivable, which
> means regardless if you are using blank media for cc (non-NC)
> licensed music, music that is under all rights reserved or even
> public domain material people have to pay this fee when they purchase
> blank media and the collected money will be distributed among artists
> via collecting societies. as there is no way to get around these
> levies it was decided to make it clear in the authors of cc-licensed
> works do reserve this right. hope this helps
>
> all the best from amsterdam,
> paul
>
> p.s i think that CC needs to be more upfront about the new US CC
> licenses. as far as i can tell these are not really widely know
>
>
> On Aug 3, 2007, at 5:33 PM, Liz Berg wrote:
>
>> For clarity, it seems as though the CC 2.5 licenses (by-nc and by-
>> nc-nd)
>> address the issue of performance and mechanical royalties in more
>> explicit
>> terms than the equivalent 3.0 licenses.
>>
>>> From what I gather, an artist who uses a CC 2.5 by-nc license cannot
>> collect royalties from a performance rights society, music rights
>> agency,
>> or SoundExchange unless their work was used for a commercial
>> purpose. But
>> please correct me if I'm wrong about that.
>>
>> The 3.0 license, on the other hand appears to be more vague about this
>> issue, breaking it down under more general terms: non-waivable and
>> waivable compulsory license schemes, plus voluntary license
>> schemes. In
>> this 3.0 license, it appears as though there is one case where an
>> artist
>> may still collect royalties on a non-commercial use of their work:
>> if they
>> are bound by a non-waivable compulsory license scheme.
>>
>> What are some examples of a non-waivable compulsory license scheme?
>> And
>> where do SoundExchange, performance rights organizations, and music
>> rights
>> agencies fall under these 3.0 classifications?
>>
>> If I set up a non-commercial web stream that exclusively plays CC 3.0
>> music, will I owe royalties to SoundExchange? How about if that stream
>> exclusively plays CC 2.5 music?
>>
>> Any help or insight would be much appreciated, thanks!
>>
>> -Liz
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