[cc-licenses] Unbundling the GPL
Dana Powers
dana.powers at gmail.com
Wed Apr 25 14:45:09 EDT 2007
How many authors have licensed their work under Creative Commons? In
the millions? Of those, how many who have affirmatively licensed
their work under a No-Derivatives license, or a Non-Commercial
license, do you think had their reasonable expectations unprovided
for? How many feel that Creative Commons has misrepresented "freedom"
to them?
I wonder.
Oh but they would! If only they knew what real Freedom was!
On 4/25/07, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/25/07, Dana Powers <dana.powers at gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is silly. There is no more reason to think RMS and the Freedom
> > Fighters have appropriated the word "freedom" for their own ends than
> > to think that Creative Commons has, or that the U.S. government has or
> > whatever.
> >
> > Moreover, claiming that without a single definition for a term there
> > can be no acceptible limits to its meaning is specious and incoherent.
> >
> > I do think you've read too much Orwell.
>
> <sarcasm>
> Yea, too much Orwell, just like those fruity hippies that argue that
> folks in Guantanamo aren't free, it nonsense ... the law lets us kill
> terrorists on the spot, so obviously being in Guantanamo is a freedom.
> </sarcasm>
>
> Come on now.. how is designating something as released under a
> "developing nations" license fairly described as "specifying freedom"?
> Sure, you can call it technically a specification of freedom (just as
> 'none at all' is a specification of freedom) but to do so violates
> peoples reasonable expectations. It's a misrepresentation.
>
> I think it is okay to differ in the details with the commonly expected
> behaviors, such as copyleft (which is only a restriction of freedom in
> the same sense that anti-assault laws limit the freedom to swing your
> fist), or in insignificant ways... But to operate in a way which is
> nearly the opposite of the common expectation of the word is
> unacceptable... especially when there are some licenses which do
> actually meet the expectation, but little is done to emphasize them.
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