[cc-licenses] Version 3.0 - List Discussion Responses

Doug Dougpol1 at ADELPHIA.NET
Sat Sep 23 17:09:55 EDT 2006


Mike Linksvayer wrote:
> Greg, there's some truth to your market/community distinction, but
> preventing forks is not the point of anti-TPM language.  TPM applied by
> a third party can restrict a licensee's rights that a licensor intended
> in the case of any CC license.  TPM can potentially (in TPM imaginary
> world anyway) prevent forks -- by preventing derivative works!
>
> Besides, removing the anti-TPM language from everything *except* BY-SA
> would satisfy almost nobody (except you :) as BY-SA is one of two
> licenses Debian could potentially approve and they have a problem with
> the anti-TPM language.  If there was a case for removing anti-TPM
> language from only some licenses it would make most sense to do nearly
> the opposite of what you propose (remove only from "community"
> licenses)!
>
> Another exciting sentence!
>
> Mike!
>
> "Greg London" wrote on September 8, 2006 7:02:00 AM PDT:
>   
>> The point of bullet 2 seems to have
>> been misunderstood. I suggested that
>> the anti-tpm clause be put in just the
>> ShareAlike license because that's the
>> one that needs protection from forks.
>>
>> All the market economy licenses
>> NC, ND, don't really care about
>> forks because the license maintains
>> the original creator at an advantage.
>> The community isn't being protected
>> by the license, the creator is.
>>
>> CC-BY is a community license, but it
>> allows proprietary forking, so why
>> not allow DRM forking. It's like the
>> BSD license or a Public Domain license
>> that allows the work to be taken private,
>> so CC-BY doesn't need an anti-TPM clause.
>>
>> CC-SA is specifically for protecting a community
>> by preventing proprietary forking. TPM can be
>> used to implement forking without violating
>> a simple ShareAlike license with no anti-tpm clause.
>> Therefore, it is only the ShareAlike license that needs
>> the anti-tpm clause to prevent tpm to be used to
>> fork a sharealike work.
>>
>> Since the anti-tpm clause is a problem for some
>> people, I suggested using it only in the ShareAlike
>> license so as to minimize the problem.
>>     
>
>
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