[cc-licenses] [Cc-icommons] use of CC Deed icons in copyright statements
melanie dulong de rosnay
melanie.dulong-de-rosnay at cersa.org
Tue Feb 28 18:14:56 EST 2006
dear all,
cc-fr list agreed to have the expression "commons deed" translated as
"résumé explicatif", something like "explanative summary" (of the
contract terms) - which doesn't sound good in english.
however, it is not foreseen to translate "commons deed" in the fields
of the iCommons translating application, as tom notices, it is part
of the graphic layout.
i noticed recently watching a common deed on national television
during a news report on Jamendo that it looks a bit strange to have a
text translated except the title.
maybe the expression "commons deed" could also be localized on the
deed page?
i also heard critics expressing a first impression of US stuff and
pretending it is not adaptated to national legislation because of the
title, which is a pity. (a court president even suggested to find a
translation for "creative commons" but it is a trademark and a hardly
translatable expression ;-)
cc-fr list also proposed to have the icon BY: locally adaptated (like
euro € instead of dollar $), but i think there's a risk of
dissolution of the icon meaning.
melanie
Le 28 févr. 06 à 22:07, tomislav medak a écrit :
> i've got also a similar consideration that i wanted to raise for
> quite
> some time now: shouldn't we find a plain language word for "deed"? for
> most of the world having no knowledge of legal terminology this
> provides
> no clue as to what the document behind this term is. to make even more
> complicated than just being the matter of translating this adequately
> into its local language equivalent, it's also part of the deed page
> graphics. what do others think? what would be a good synonym in
> english
> for "deed"?
>
> tom
>
> Alek Tarkowski wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> (sorry for crossposting, seemed a good subject for both lists)
>>
>> I've heard recently several comments regarding what a nuisance it
>> is in
>> some situations to provide the necessary licensing information - for
>> instance a newspaper printing a CC licensed story often does not have
>> the space to provide the name of the license together with its URL.
>>
>> So I've been thinking about possible solutions and I remember
>> reading on
>> the cc-licenses list that an abbreviation might be acceptable: for
>> instance CC BY-NC-SA 2.5. That does save space, especially in
>> languages
>> like mine, where words are long.
>>
>> But a friend of mine has suggested the use of the four deed icons
>> instead of words - the way MozCC does that for webpages.
>>
>> So I would like to know what you think about this. And I know this
>> would
>> require a change in the license wording. But are there, for instance,
>> any legal hooks to this - difficulties caused by the fact that
>> these are
>> visual elements?
>>
>> Or maybe this can be done already with the current licenses?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Alek Tarkowski
>>
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