[cc-licenses] Dumping CC-BY-NC-ND and Narrowing CC-BY-ND

Tom Quoroll tjq21 at cam.ac.uk
Wed Apr 26 07:28:11 EDT 2006


>In the meant time, I find that CC-BY-NC-ND is such an abomination,  
>that I do not feel bound by it.  I shall follow the freedoms.  To me,  
>CC-BY-NC-ND is CC-BY-NC.

Lol fine, you make a derivative of my CC-BY-NC-ND work, I'll sue you, and we'll let the court decide ;)

As I understand it choice lies at the heart of the creative commons concept. Your proposition is interesting but IMHO to limit the choice available to users would surely only push people away from CC licences and towards "all rights reserved", which can only be a bad thing.

Tom.

-----Original Message-----
From: cc-licenses-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:cc-licenses-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Ualabio?
Sent: 24 April 2006 23:11
To: cc-licenses at lists.ibiblio.org; Cory Doctorow
Subject: [cc-licenses] Dumping CC-BY-NC-ND and Narrowing CC-BY-ND


	¡Hello!

	¿How Fare You?

	Awhile ago, I did took an impromptu poll and determined that most  
people hate CC-BY-NC-ND as being antithetical to the purpose as a  
creative commons (one cannot build on them).  We should remove CC-BY- 
NC-ND from future versions of the licenses and reduce the scope of CC- 
BY-ND to commercial works.

	We should create all licenses along these lines:

	0.	-	the freedom to run the work for any purpose (called "freedom  
0"), at least noncommercially
	1.	-	the freedom to study and modify the program ("freedom 1"), at  
least noncommercially
	2.	-	the freedom to copy the work so you can help your neighbor  
("freedom 2"), at least noncommercially
	3.	-	the freedom to improve the work, and release your improvements  
to the public, so that the whole community benefits ("freedom 3"), at  
least noncommercially

	In the meant time, I find that CC-BY-NC-ND is such an abomination,  
that I do not feel bound by it.  I shall follow the freedoms.  To me,  
CC-BY-NC-ND is CC-BY-NC.  CC-BY-ND does not apply to noncommercial  
works.  I shall write all of the missing chapter I want for CC-BY-NC- 
ND and CC-BY-ND and release them noncommercially.  I shall encourage  
others to do likewise.

	CC-BY-NC-ND and CC-BY-ND applied to noncommercial works is  
incompatible with the concept of a creative commons because one  
cannot build on them.

	¡Thanks!

	¡Pax!

	¡Health!

	¡Bye!

	—

	Ŭalabio‽

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