Draft License 2.5 - Now open for discussion
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Fri May 20 16:54:01 EDT 2005
Rob Myers said:
> On 20 May 2005, at 21:33, Evan Prodromou wrote:
>> On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 10:31:58AM -0400, Greg London wrote:
>>>> One concern: what about copyright notices? Won't they still need
>>>> to be
>>>> preserved, with accurate attribution? If so, doesn't that defeat the
>>>> goal of this change?
>>> notices are legally optional.
>> They're still required by the license, though.
> Yes, I thought that. BY-SA-2.0 4c says:
> You must keep intact all copyright notices for the Work
> But possibly if there are no copyright notices to start with (and as
> Greg points out they are optional) then you don't need to keep them
> intact. :-)
Well, sort of. what I was trying to say was that
a copyright notice has to be kept in place if provided,
but since a notice isn't legally required from every
author, then a wiki project just asks everyone to contribute
their works without embedding a notice. Then the only
overhead is the wiki-attribution.
If teh wiki project wants to roll in some work from
an outside author that is CC-BY to that author,
then the wiki will have to maintain attribution to
that specific author and keep any notices in place.
But my point was simply that the wiki license
allows a wiki project and wiki contributers
to minimize the overhead if everyone agrees
to not insert copyright notices everywhere.
re-reading Evan's original concern, I'm not
even sure right now if that was his meaning.
If the wiki does decide to roll in a CC-BY work
from Alice (maybe Alice doesn't want to give up
her personal attribution, but the wiki decides
the work is good enough to take on the extra
overhead of attributing Alice personally),
in that case, I don't >think< that copyright
notices have to ripple up to the top.
But then, I'm used to open source software
with copyright notices in individual files.
As far as I know, Linux doesn't come with a
master "copyright notice" file with every single
notice grepped out into one destination.
So, if a wiki project does decide to roll in
Alice's work, they can attribute her, but I
think they can leave her notices wherever they are,
depending on how much her work gets mutilated
when it's rolled into the wiki project.
but as always, I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice.
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