[Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
Oiwan Lam
oiwan.lam at gmail.com
Fri Apr 24 01:16:38 EDT 2009
i agree, we can just use the RTHK questionnaire and distribute it to
teachers but i suggest also to put it online for general public - because
netizens will talk about it and catch more attention.
for teachers maybe good to contact ±Ð¨ó and ±ÐÁp¡Hthey should have an email list
for all their members.
2009/4/24 Jack Qiu <jacklqiu at gmail.com>
> The RTHK questionnaire is already very elegant and yet helpful, and
> should be good enough for wider distribution.
>
> I also second Pindar's idea about targeting secondary school teachers
> teaching Liberal Studies. This semester I have a master in general
> education class that consists of mostly such teachers from secondary
> schools. The class is about globalization, one of the several
> formidable subjects they have to cover in Liberal Studies. The
> students already made their presentations using RTHK's video footage,
> for example, on in a project that introduces fair trade to high school
> students.
>
> What's the best way to reach this group, who may need to use RTHK
> materials to benefit many more and younger students? HK Education
> City?
>
> jack
>
> 2009/4/24 Mayella Cheung <cheungll at rthk.org.hk>:
> > Thanks, Oiwan.
> > I think that's a very good idea!
> >
> > Mayella
> >
> >
> > Oiwan Lam wrote:
> >
> > in that case, we need more public pressure for the rthk's opening up. can
> we
> > release the news to a wider public and do a online public survey by
> > ourselves to create public opinion?
> >
> > 2009/4/23 Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>
> >>
> >> I have contacted Mayella Cheung of RTHK and this is her response.
> >>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> From: Mayella Cheung <cheungll at rthk.org.hk>
> >> Date: 2009/4/23
> >> Subject: Re: RTHK Consultation on CC
> >> To: Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>
> >> Cc: pindar.wong at gmail.com, Charles Mok <mok at hknet.com>, Ying Chan
> >> <yychan at hku.hk>
> >>
> >> Dear Haggen,
> >> Glad to hear that!
> >>
> >> Since the CCHK was established in Nov last year, I have been trying to
> >> "educate" RTHK Management and push for the setting up of a "RTHK
> Creative
> >> Archive". It's not that easy as there are still some internal
> resistance
> >> at the senior level about opening up RTHK archives (especially from the
> >> unit which handles RTHK programme licencsing of DVD/VCD).
> >>
> >> But fortunately the new Deputy Director of Broadcasting (ie. an AO from
> >> the govt) seems to like my idea and asked me to draft the questionaire
> to
> >> first get some feedbacks from RTHK Programme Advisory Panel Members. I
> >> guess at least this is a good step to push it forward.
> >> And besides the Advisory Panel members, I also sent the questionaire to
> >> some academics and hope to seek their views as well.
> >>
> >> To make things happen, it would indeed be great and useful if there is
> >> some outside support (eg. press write-ups) of this RTHK Creative Archive
> >> initiative :-)
> >>
> >> As I'm not in the CC-hk mailing group, pls feel free to post this up for
> >> me in your mailing list discussion.
> >> And pls feel free to let me know if there is anything I can help.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Rgds,
> >> Mayella Cheung
> >> RTHK Deputy Head of New Media
> >>
> >> 2009/4/23 Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> > Pindar has some problem mailing to the list. Just repost.
> >> >
> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> > From: Mr. Pindar Wong <pindar at pacific.net.hk>
> >> > Date: 2009/4/23
> >> > Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
> >> > To: Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>
> >> > Cc: cc-hk <cc-hk at lists.ibiblio.org>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Let me try to respond to this substantively later today.
> >> >
> >> > In the meantime I would say ....
> >> >
> >> > 1) Consul With Liberal Studies Teachers in addition to University
> Staff
> >> >
> >> > Consulting with University teaching staff is helpful, but my sense is
> >> > that consulting with senior secondary teaching staff, who are faced
> >> > with the daunting task of deploying the New HKDSE, would lead to more
> >> > direct and visible benefit to HK.
> >> >
> >> > Specifically consult with those teachers charged with deploying
> >> > 'Liberal Studies' -- a corner stone of the new curriculum and, reading
> >> > recent press, looking rather wobbly.
> >> >
> >> > 2) Baby Steps:
> >> >
> >> > It would be a big move for any institution to put a substantial part
> >> > of its intellectual property on the Internet. RTHK * already* does so
> >> > on the web and CCHK now provides an excellent legal means for RTHK to
> >> > grow and move forward. That said, I think it would be prudent to start
> >> > with 'baby steps' and start with content where there is a clear and
> >> > immediate need for material to be licenced under CCHK.
> >> >
> >> > 3) Start with Selecting RTHK Material that will help with the
> >> > deployment of the 1st Term (Sept 2009-Dec) of 'Liberal Studies'
> >> > (which is now one of the 4 CORE subjects to be studied in senior
> >> > secondary school)
> >> >
> >> > 4) Specifically RTHK could look at contributing material to support
> >> >
> >> > Liberal Studies 'M2: Hong Kong Today'
> >> >
> >> > e.g. providing examples of is numerous current affairs/calling/talk
> >> > back programs which explore 'both sides' of an issue.
> >> >
> >> > 5) RTHK material is part of our cultural heritage, so try to convince
> >> > them to keep there material online for more than their existing 2
> >> > years would be a very positive step.
> >> >
> >> > More to follow ...
> >> >
> >> > p.
> >> >
> >> > On Apr 23, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Haggen So wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> This is great news and everyone please continue to give suggestions.
> I
> >> >> will follow up.
> >> >>
> >> >> Haggen
> >> >>
> >> >> 2009/4/23 Edmon <edmon at isoc.hk>:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I know Joe Yau and Christline Loh are both very interested in this
> >> >>> topic as
> >> >>> well.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sure... do you have anything specific in mind?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Edmon
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> From: sc at itvoice.hk [mailto:sc at itvoice.hk]
> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:31 AM
> >> >>> To: Edmon
> >> >>> Cc: 'Kenneth Yip'; 'Oiwan Lam'; 'cc-hk'
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Do we have this in other economies like Taiwan, etc.
> >> >>> I mean, Edmon, we may utilize the concept of .Asia to do something.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> SC
> >> >>> -----------------
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Edmon ´£¨ì:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> That sounds like a very progressive move!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> How can we help to promote/push this to reality...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Edmon
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> From: cc-hk-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> >> >>> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Kenneth Yip
> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:24 PM
> >> >>> To: Oiwan Lam
> >> >>> Cc: cc-hk
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> It will be even better if RTHK can open their archive under CC. I
> am
> >> >>> sure
> >> >>> people can have many creative use of RTHK archive.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 2009/4/22 Oiwan Lam <oiwan.lam at gmail.com>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> RTHK is now consulting university teaching staffs on opening up of
> >> >>> their
> >> >>> archive under CC to public. it is a very good move. Should we write
> >> >>> something to newspapers to alert people to fill up the feed back
> form?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> cheers, oiwan
> >> >>>
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>
> Assistant Professor
> School of Journalism and Communication,
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