[Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC

Mayella Cheung cheungll at rthk.org.hk
Fri Apr 24 00:38:45 EDT 2009


Thanks, Oiwan.
I think that's a very good idea!

Mayella


Oiwan Lam wrote:

> in that case, we need more public pressure for the rthk's opening up.
> can we release the news to a wider public and do a online public
> survey by ourselves to create public opinion?
>
> 2009/4/23 Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>
>
>      I have contacted Mayella Cheung of RTHK and this is her
>      response.
>
>      ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>      From: Mayella Cheung <cheungll at rthk.org.hk>
>      Date: 2009/4/23
>      Subject: Re: RTHK Consultation on CC
>      To: Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>
>      Cc: pindar.wong at gmail.com, Charles Mok <mok at hknet.com>, Ying
>      Chan
>      <yychan at hku.hk>
>
>      Dear Haggen,
>      Glad to hear that!
>
>      Since the CCHK was established in Nov last year, I have been
>      trying to
>      "educate" RTHK Management and push for the setting up of a
>      "RTHK Creative
>      Archive".   It's not that easy as there are still some
>      internal resistance
>      at the senior level about opening up RTHK archives
>      (especially from the
>      unit which handles RTHK programme licencsing of DVD/VCD).
>
>      But fortunately the new Deputy Director of Broadcasting (ie.
>      an AO from
>      the govt) seems to like my idea and asked me to draft the
>      questionaire to
>      first get some feedbacks from RTHK Programme Advisory Panel
>      Members.  I
>      guess at least this is a good step to push it forward.
>      And besides the Advisory Panel members, I also sent the
>      questionaire to
>      some academics and hope to seek their views as well.
>
>      To make things happen, it would indeed be great and useful
>      if there is
>      some outside support (eg. press write-ups) of this RTHK
>      Creative Archive
>      initiative :-)
>
>      As I'm not in the CC-hk mailing group, pls feel free to post
>      this up for
>      me in your mailing list discussion.
>      And pls feel free to let me know if there is anything I can
>      help.
>
>      Thanks.
>
>      Rgds,
>      Mayella Cheung
>      RTHK Deputy Head of New Media
>
>      2009/4/23 Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>:
>      > Pindar has some problem mailing to the list. Just repost.
>      >
>      > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>      > From: Mr. Pindar Wong <pindar at pacific.net.hk>
>      > Date: 2009/4/23
>      > Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
>      > To: Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>
>      > Cc: cc-hk <cc-hk at lists.ibiblio.org>
>      >
>      >
>      > Let me  try to respond to this substantively later today.
>      >
>      > In the meantime I would say ....
>      >
>      > 1) Consul With Liberal Studies Teachers in addition to
>      University Staff
>      >
>      > Consulting with University teaching staff is helpful, but
>      my sense is
>      > that consulting with senior secondary teaching staff, who
>      are faced
>      > with the daunting task of deploying the New HKDSE, would
>      lead to more
>      > direct and visible benefit to HK.
>      >
>      > Specifically consult with those teachers charged with
>      deploying
>      > 'Liberal Studies' -- a corner stone of the new curriculum
>      and, reading
>      > recent press, looking rather wobbly.
>      >
>      > 2) Baby Steps:
>      >
>      > It would be a big move for any institution to put a
>      substantial part
>      > of its intellectual property on the Internet. RTHK *
>      already* does so
>      > on the web and CCHK now provides an excellent legal means
>      for RTHK to
>      > grow and move forward. That said, I think it would be
>      prudent to start
>      > with 'baby steps' and start with content where there is a
>      clear and
>      > immediate need for material to be licenced under CCHK.
>      >
>      > 3) Start with Selecting RTHK Material that will help with
>      the
>      > deployment of the 1st Term (Sept 2009-Dec) of  'Liberal
>      Studies'
>      > (which is now one of the 4 CORE subjects to be studied in
>      senior
>      > secondary school)
>      >
>      > 4) Specifically RTHK could look at contributing material
>      to support
>      >
>      > Liberal Studies 'M2: Hong Kong Today'
>      >
>      > e.g. providing examples of is numerous current
>      affairs/calling/talk
>      > back programs which explore 'both sides' of an issue.
>      >
>      > 5) RTHK material is part of our cultural heritage, so try
>      to convince
>      > them to keep there material online for more than their
>      existing 2
>      > years would be a very positive step.
>      >
>      > More to follow ...
>      >
>      > p.
>      >
>      > On Apr 23, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Haggen So wrote:
>      >
>      >> This is great news and everyone please continue to give
>      suggestions. I
>      >> will follow up.
>      >>
>      >> Haggen
>      >>
>      >> 2009/4/23 Edmon <edmon at isoc.hk>:
>      >>>
>      >>> I know Joe Yau and Christline Loh are both very
>      interested in this topic as
>      >>> well.
>      >>>
>      >>> Sure... do you have anything specific in mind?
>      >>>
>      >>> Edmon
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> From: sc at itvoice.hk [mailto:sc at itvoice.hk]
>      >>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:31 AM
>      >>> To: Edmon
>      >>> Cc: 'Kenneth Yip'; 'Oiwan Lam'; 'cc-hk'
>      >>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> Do we have this in other economies like Taiwan, etc.
>      >>> I mean, Edmon, we may utilize the concept of .Asia to do
>      something.
>      >>>
>      >>> SC
>      >>> -----------------
>      >>>
>      >>> Edmon ’ñ“ž:
>      >>>
>      >>> That sounds like a very progressive move!
>      >>>
>      >>> How can we help to promote/push this to reality...
>      >>>
>      >>> Edmon
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> From: cc-hk-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
>      >>> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of
>      Kenneth Yip
>      >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:24 PM
>      >>> To: Oiwan Lam
>      >>> Cc: cc-hk
>      >>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>>
>      >>> It will be even better if RTHK can open their archive
>      under CC.  I am sure
>      >>> people can have many creative use of RTHK archive.
>      >>>
>      >>> 2009/4/22 Oiwan Lam <oiwan.lam at gmail.com>
>      >>>
>      >>> RTHK is now consulting university teaching staffs on
>      opening up of their
>      >>> archive under CC to public. it is a very good move.
>      Should we write
>      >>> something to newspapers to alert people to fill up the
>      feed back form?
>      >>>
>      >>> cheers, oiwan
>      >>>
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