[Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC

Oiwan Lam oiwan.lam at gmail.com
Fri Apr 24 00:34:51 EDT 2009


in that case, we need more public pressure for the rthk's opening up. can we
release the news to a wider public and do a online public survey by
ourselves to create public opinion?

2009/4/23 Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>

> I have contacted Mayella Cheung of RTHK and this is her response.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Mayella Cheung <cheungll at rthk.org.hk>
> Date: 2009/4/23
> Subject: Re: RTHK Consultation on CC
> To: Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>
> Cc: pindar.wong at gmail.com, Charles Mok <mok at hknet.com>, Ying Chan
> <yychan at hku.hk>
>
> Dear Haggen,
> Glad to hear that!
>
> Since the CCHK was established in Nov last year, I have been trying to
> "educate" RTHK Management and push for the setting up of a "RTHK Creative
> Archive".   It's not that easy as there are still some internal resistance
> at the senior level about opening up RTHK archives (especially from the
> unit which handles RTHK programme licencsing of DVD/VCD).
>
> But fortunately the new Deputy Director of Broadcasting (ie. an AO from
> the govt) seems to like my idea and asked me to draft the questionaire to
> first get some feedbacks from RTHK Programme Advisory Panel Members.  I
> guess at least this is a good step to push it forward.
> And besides the Advisory Panel members, I also sent the questionaire to
> some academics and hope to seek their views as well.
>
> To make things happen, it would indeed be great and useful if there is
> some outside support (eg. press write-ups) of this RTHK Creative Archive
> initiative :-)
>
> As I'm not in the CC-hk mailing group, pls feel free to post this up for
> me in your mailing list discussion.
> And pls feel free to let me know if there is anything I can help.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Rgds,
> Mayella Cheung
> RTHK Deputy Head of New Media
>
> 2009/4/23 Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>:
> > Pindar has some problem mailing to the list. Just repost.
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Mr. Pindar Wong <pindar at pacific.net.hk>
> > Date: 2009/4/23
> > Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
> > To: Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>
> > Cc: cc-hk <cc-hk at lists.ibiblio.org>
> >
> >
> > Let me  try to respond to this substantively later today.
> >
> > In the meantime I would say ....
> >
> > 1) Consul With Liberal Studies Teachers in addition to University Staff
> >
> > Consulting with University teaching staff is helpful, but my sense is
> > that consulting with senior secondary teaching staff, who are faced
> > with the daunting task of deploying the New HKDSE, would lead to more
> > direct and visible benefit to HK.
> >
> > Specifically consult with those teachers charged with deploying
> > 'Liberal Studies' -- a corner stone of the new curriculum and, reading
> > recent press, looking rather wobbly.
> >
> > 2) Baby Steps:
> >
> > It would be a big move for any institution to put a substantial part
> > of its intellectual property on the Internet. RTHK * already* does so
> > on the web and CCHK now provides an excellent legal means for RTHK to
> > grow and move forward. That said, I think it would be prudent to start
> > with 'baby steps' and start with content where there is a clear and
> > immediate need for material to be licenced under CCHK.
> >
> > 3) Start with Selecting RTHK Material that will help with the
> > deployment of the 1st Term (Sept 2009-Dec) of  'Liberal Studies'
> > (which is now one of the 4 CORE subjects to be studied in senior
> > secondary school)
> >
> > 4) Specifically RTHK could look at contributing material to support
> >
> > Liberal Studies 'M2: Hong Kong Today'
> >
> > e.g. providing examples of is numerous current affairs/calling/talk
> > back programs which explore 'both sides' of an issue.
> >
> > 5) RTHK material is part of our cultural heritage, so try to convince
> > them to keep there material online for more than their existing 2
> > years would be a very positive step.
> >
> > More to follow ...
> >
> > p.
> >
> > On Apr 23, 2009, at 10:05 AM, Haggen So wrote:
> >
> >> This is great news and everyone please continue to give suggestions. I
> >> will follow up.
> >>
> >> Haggen
> >>
> >> 2009/4/23 Edmon <edmon at isoc.hk>:
> >>>
> >>> I know Joe Yau and Christline Loh are both very interested in this
> topic as
> >>> well.
> >>>
> >>> Sure... do you have anything specific in mind?
> >>>
> >>> Edmon
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: sc at itvoice.hk [mailto:sc at itvoice.hk]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:31 AM
> >>> To: Edmon
> >>> Cc: 'Kenneth Yip'; 'Oiwan Lam'; 'cc-hk'
> >>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Do we have this in other economies like Taiwan, etc.
> >>> I mean, Edmon, we may utilize the concept of .Asia to do something.
> >>>
> >>> SC
> >>> -----------------
> >>>
> >>> Edmon 提到:
> >>>
> >>> That sounds like a very progressive move!
> >>>
> >>> How can we help to promote/push this to reality...
> >>>
> >>> Edmon
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: cc-hk-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> >>> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Kenneth Yip
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:24 PM
> >>> To: Oiwan Lam
> >>> Cc: cc-hk
> >>> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] RTHK consulting on CC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It will be even better if RTHK can open their archive under CC.  I am
> sure
> >>> people can have many creative use of RTHK archive.
> >>>
> >>> 2009/4/22 Oiwan Lam <oiwan.lam at gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> RTHK is now consulting university teaching staffs on opening up of
> their
> >>> archive under CC to public. it is a very good move. Should we write
> >>> something to newspapers to alert people to fill up the feed back form?
> >>>
> >>> cheers, oiwan
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