[Cc-hk] the question of the CCHK Chinese name

Charles Mok charlespmok at gmail.com
Tue Jun 17 08:07:02 EDT 2008


Simple is best.  Bracket is not good.
I think no need to have HK in the chinese name.
Most people will call it CCHK anyway and they will know it is HK.
The Chi name is for domestic use onky and they already know it is HK

2008/6/17 Ben <bencheng at oursky.com>:

> Nevermind, please feel free to join us... Hope that we can see you next
> time...
>
> Ben
>
> 2008/6/17 Daisy Maris Fung <daisy.fung at gmail.com>:
>  > ¨ä¹ê§Ú¦³·Q¹L¤µ±ß·|¤£·|°Ñ»P¤@¤U¡A¥i¬O¤@ª½³£¨S¦³°Ñ¥[§A­Ìªº·|ij¡A
> > ²{¦b¨ì§ë²¼ªº®É­Ô¤S¦h¥X¤F¤@¤H¡A¦n¹³¦³ÂI©Ç²§ªº»¡¡C
> >
> > 2008/6/17 Chong Chan-yau <chanyau at hku.hk>:
> >> I like ³Ð·N¦@¥Î
> >> Sorry I cannot join the meeting again.
> >> Chan Yau
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: cc-hk-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org
> >> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Oiwan Lam
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:46 PM
> >> To: Jerry~Yuyu
> >> Cc: Ben; cc-hk
> >> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] the question of the CCHK Chinese name
> >>
> >> am thinking about whether we should put hk into the name...
> >>
> >> if it is ³Ð·N¦@¥Î(­»´ä), can we make a abbreviation as ³Ð¥Î­»´ä?
> >>
> >> 2008/6/16 Jerry~Yuyu <jerry.tschan.yu at gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>> Halo,
> >>>
> >>> as I might come late tomorrow, so I'll state my views first
> >>>
> >>> my first choice is ³Ð·N¦@¥Î...... and then to ³Ð·N¦@¨É
> >>>
> >>> however, I wonder should we add "¨óij" (license) or sort of terms at the
> end
> >>> of the name
> >>> to indicate what actually it is........ as not many people around
> actually
> >>> know what CC is, I mean the general public.
> >>>
> >>> Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan
> >>> Jerry~«B«B
> >>> User:Yuyu
> >>>
> >>> Deputy President
> >>> Wikimedia Hong Kong
> >>>
> >>> Tel: +852 9279 1601
> >>> Laudamus quae laudentur
> >>>
> >>> 2008/6/16 Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon at gmail.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>> I look forward to seeing all of you tomorrow.  Please note that Pindar
> >>>> has outlined the following voting process:
> >>>> ---
> >>>> Two items will be put to vote at this meeting aiming at a final
> >>>> selection. This will follow the Olympic City process:
> >>>> After decision on whether ballots are to be public/private -
> >>>> (a) ballot goes through as many voting rounds as required until there
> are
> >>>> only two alternatives at the last round,
> >>>> (b) alternative with the least vote at each round is discarded,
> >>>> (c) those who cannot attend the June meeting can indicate their
> >>>> preferences by email, marking 1st, 2nd, 3rd Preferences
> >>>> (d) in case of a tie, the Chair has the casting vote.
> >>>> -----
> >>>> Please e-mail your preferences if you cannot attend in person.
> >>>> Here is what the wiki currently says about the versions of the name
> which
> >>>> the Exco has been discussing so far:
> >>>> ­»´ä³Ð·N¡]§@¡^¦@¨É¡]¥Î¡^
> >>>> Thus the top choices (with or without ­»´ä  at the front) include the
> >>>> following combinations:
> >>>> ³Ð·N¦@¨É - "creativity sharing"
> >>>> ³Ð§@¦@¨É - "creation/creative work sharing"
> >>>> ³Ð·N¦@¥Î - "creativity commons/public use"
> >>>> ³Ð§@¦@¥Î - "creation/creative work commons/public use"
> >>>>
> >>>> For reference, the Taiwan name is³Ð¥ÎCC, while mainland China has
> >>>> adoptedª¾ÃѦ@¨É@¤¤°ê¡C(Though I believe they do not use @¤¤°ê in their
> licenses, it's
> >>>> just ª¾ÃѦ@¨É) The Taiwan name literally means "Create, Use CC"; the
> mainland
> >>>> name is literally "Knowledge Sharing @ China"
> >>>>
> >>>> There is an alternative mainland name, ³Ð§@¦@¥Î, which was adopted by
> Isaac
> >>>> Mao and the CNblog community before the anointment of the current
> official
> >>>> CC China mainland team. That name can be found on the
> creativecommons.cn
> >>>> website which was created by the CNblog community. There is a somewhat
> >>>> bitter history surrounding the fact that there are two groups and two
> names.
> >>>> I will not go into that here. The CCHK exco would like to maintain
> good
> >>>> relations with both the official CC China mainland project as well as
> the
> >>>> CNblog grassroots community and is not interested in picking sides.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nobody on the Exco or other people we spoke with in the community were
> >>>> especially thrilled with either the Taiwan or the official mainland
> China
> >>>> name, feeling that neither would be appropriate for the Hong Kong user
> >>>> community.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is still some question about whether we should adopt a Chinese
> name
> >>>> at all - CC International is concerned that two official Chinese names
> (and
> >>>> one unofficial Chinese name) for CC are already confusing enough.
> There is
> >>>> concern that yet another name adopted by CCHK would create even more
> >>>> confusion among users on the Chinese speaking Internet. At the same
> time,
> >>>> Oiwan has pointed out that having a good Chinese name will help with
> local
> >>>> adoption of the CC license in HK and avoid confusion with other media
> in
> >>>> Hong Kong already using cc (with other meanings) in their names or
> URL's.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for considering these issues seriously. We look forward to your
> >>>> views and your votes on Tuesday night. If you can't come please e-mail
> your
> >>>> top 3 preferences, or let us know any other ideas you have.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>> Rebecca
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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> >>>>
> >>>> Rebecca MacKinnon
> >>>> Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
> >>>> University of Hong Kong (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
> >>>> E-mail: rmack at hku.hk | Tel: +852-2219-4005
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