[Cc-hk] the question of the CCHK Chinese name

Daisy Maris Fung daisy.fung at gmail.com
Tue Jun 17 05:48:28 EDT 2008


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2008/6/17 Chong Chan-yau <chanyau at hku.hk>:
> I like ³Ð·N¦@¥Î
> Sorry I cannot join the meeting again.
> Chan Yau
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> [mailto:cc-hk-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Oiwan Lam
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:46 PM
> To: Jerry~Yuyu
> Cc: Ben; cc-hk
> Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] the question of the CCHK Chinese name
>
> am thinking about whether we should put hk into the name...
>
> if it is ³Ð·N¦@¥Î(­»´ä), can we make a abbreviation as ³Ð¥Î­»´ä?
>
> 2008/6/16 Jerry~Yuyu <jerry.tschan.yu at gmail.com>:
>>
>> Halo,
>>
>> as I might come late tomorrow, so I'll state my views first
>>
>> my first choice is ³Ð·N¦@¥Î...... and then to ³Ð·N¦@¨É
>>
>> however, I wonder should we add "¨óij" (license) or sort of terms at the end
>> of the name
>> to indicate what actually it is........ as not many people around actually
>> know what CC is, I mean the general public.
>>
>> Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan
>> Jerry~«B«B
>> User:Yuyu
>>
>> Deputy President
>> Wikimedia Hong Kong
>>
>> Tel: +852 9279 1601
>> Laudamus quae laudentur
>>
>> 2008/6/16 Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> I look forward to seeing all of you tomorrow.  Please note that Pindar
>>> has outlined the following voting process:
>>> ---
>>> Two items will be put to vote at this meeting aiming at a final
>>> selection. This will follow the Olympic City process:
>>> After decision on whether ballots are to be public/private -
>>> (a) ballot goes through as many voting rounds as required until there are
>>> only two alternatives at the last round,
>>> (b) alternative with the least vote at each round is discarded,
>>> (c) those who cannot attend the June meeting can indicate their
>>> preferences by email, marking 1st, 2nd, 3rd Preferences
>>> (d) in case of a tie, the Chair has the casting vote.
>>> -----
>>> Please e-mail your preferences if you cannot attend in person.
>>> Here is what the wiki currently says about the versions of the name which
>>> the Exco has been discussing so far:
>>> ­»´ä³Ð·N¡]§@¡^¦@¨É¡]¥Î¡^
>>> Thus the top choices (with or without ­»´ä  at the front) include the
>>> following combinations:
>>> ³Ð·N¦@¨É - "creativity sharing"
>>> ³Ð§@¦@¨É - "creation/creative work sharing"
>>> ³Ð·N¦@¥Î - "creativity commons/public use"
>>> ³Ð§@¦@¥Î - "creation/creative work commons/public use"
>>>
>>> For reference, the Taiwan name is³Ð¥ÎCC, while mainland China has
>>> adoptedª¾ÃѦ@¨É@¤¤°ê¡C(Though I believe they do not use @¤¤°ê in their licenses, it's
>>> just ª¾ÃѦ@¨É) The Taiwan name literally means "Create, Use CC"; the mainland
>>> name is literally "Knowledge Sharing @ China"
>>>
>>> There is an alternative mainland name, ³Ð§@¦@¥Î, which was adopted by Isaac
>>> Mao and the CNblog community before the anointment of the current official
>>> CC China mainland team. That name can be found on the creativecommons.cn
>>> website which was created by the CNblog community. There is a somewhat
>>> bitter history surrounding the fact that there are two groups and two names.
>>> I will not go into that here. The CCHK exco would like to maintain good
>>> relations with both the official CC China mainland project as well as the
>>> CNblog grassroots community and is not interested in picking sides.
>>>
>>> Nobody on the Exco or other people we spoke with in the community were
>>> especially thrilled with either the Taiwan or the official mainland China
>>> name, feeling that neither would be appropriate for the Hong Kong user
>>> community.
>>>
>>> There is still some question about whether we should adopt a Chinese name
>>> at all - CC International is concerned that two official Chinese names (and
>>> one unofficial Chinese name) for CC are already confusing enough. There is
>>> concern that yet another name adopted by CCHK would create even more
>>> confusion among users on the Chinese speaking Internet. At the same time,
>>> Oiwan has pointed out that having a good Chinese name will help with local
>>> adoption of the CC license in HK and avoid confusion with other media in
>>> Hong Kong already using cc (with other meanings) in their names or URL's.
>>>
>>> Thanks for considering these issues seriously. We look forward to your
>>> views and your votes on Tuesday night. If you can't come please e-mail your
>>> top 3 preferences, or let us know any other ideas you have.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rebecca
>>>
>>>
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>>> Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
>>> University of Hong Kong (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
>>> E-mail: rmack at hku.hk | Tel: +852-2219-4005
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