[Cc-hk] welcome to the public discussion!
Rebecca MacKinnon
rebecca.mackinnon at gmail.com
Thu Jan 3 02:32:54 EST 2008
Thanks Ben, I think your concerns about the media are very well-founded. :)
We also don't want to create a situation where many media do their CC-HK
stories before the launch, and then lose interest in doing another story
around the launch itself because they already did one earlier... You are
absolutely right that we should plan our media strategy so that we have the
capacity to properly handle the queries received as a result of publicity.
We have a little budget here to secure a domain name if that's ok with
CC-international..
Cheers,
Rebecca
On Jan 3, 2008 3:28 PM, Ben <chpapa at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I always think it is a good idea to promote CC in Hong Kong at anytime
> :-) Since we've now entered the public discussion of draft, I think
> setting up a site for queries and public information make sense if we
> want to make those keep track of but don't have the time to explore
> the wiki get involved.
>
> Some community members had mentioned that we should register
> creativecommons.org.hk ASAP when it is still available, maybe it is a
> good chance to do that if there are some budget? (That's HKD $200 for
> a one year contract)
>
> Although CCi suggested that the tradition of not having a lot of
> publicity before launch is changing, I'm a bit worried for a press
> release, which may result in some misleading press coverage, maybe
> someone will write a story to say that CC-HK was launched while
> actually it is not? (Most of the news reporters from local newspaper
> don't know wikimedia and wikipedia is not identical until I tried very
> hard to correct them in my experience -_-)
>
> Instead of a simple press release, Rebecca's idea of designating
> individuals or companies who uses Creative Commons for interview would
> work better as I think it is more possible to have a in-depth talk
> with the reporter to make sure the report contains correct
> information.
>
> Just my personal observation and worries, I'm in a email thread with
> top journalism professionals so please correct me or make other
> suggestions. :-)
>
> Ben
>
> On Jan 3, 2008 2:10 PM, Rebecca MacKinnon <rebecca.mackinnon at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > OK thanks. I guess probably the best thing to do is for the JMSC to
> create a
> > bilingual information page about CC-HK on our own website which we can
> > direct local press queries to, and then take it from there with a press
> > release and so forth once we are ready. Before doing a press release I'd
> > love to be able to designate people, companies, and projects around HK
> who
> > are already using the unported CC licenses or who are advocates of CC in
> > various ways, who would be interested in speaking to journalists about
> why
> > CC is good for them. Seems like our cc-hk wiki is a good place to
> develop
> > that initial list?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rebecca
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2008 2:05 PM, Mike Linksvayer <ml at creativecommons.org> wrote:
> > > Traditionally there has not been much publicity around the stages of
> > > porting prior to actual launch, but we're trying to change that. I
> > > suspect Michelle Thorne from CCi will be doing a CC blog post about
> the
> > > beginning of CC HK public discussions, but any other publicity would
> be
> > > welcome, as far as I'm concerned.
> > >
> > > On the licenses I defer to Catharina (and I defer to her on the above,
> > > if she disagrees!)
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rebecca MacKinnon wrote:
> > > > Thanks Catharina! This is very exciting. I look forward to seeing
> the
> > > > feedback from people on this list.
> > > >
> > > > One question: how much general publicity about the public discussion
> is
> > > > customary for CC projects at this stage? Some questions have arisen
> here
> > > > at the JMSC about whether we should issue a press release. I had
> been
> > > > under the impression that this phase of public discussion is largely
> for
> > > > people who know something about IP law and/or who are already
> familiar
> > > > with CC, but please correct me if I am wrong about this.
> > > >
> > > > Questions have also arisen here about whether and when we should
> > > > translate these materials into Chinese sooner than later given that
> some
> > > > parts of our core target community may feel excluded by an
> English-only
> > > > discussion. I know that in August it was decided we should do the
> > > > English license first since it's valid in Hong Kong law then do the
> > > > Chinese language translation later. I also know that Yahong and
> Alice do
> > > > not have the time to do the translation on their own. Any
> suggestions or
> > > > thoughts from anybody out there?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Rebecca
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 3, 2008 5:21 AM, Catharina Maracke <
> catharina at creativecommons.org
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > <mailto:catharina at creativecommons.org>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear all!
> > > >
> > > > Welcome to the discussion of the Creative Commons license for
> Hong
> > > > Kong! You will find the draft including some comments of the
> > > > substantial legal changes here:
> > > > _http://creativecommons.org/international/hk/_
> > > >
> > > > I would like to take this opportunity and thank Dr. Yahong Li,
> Alice
> > > > Lee (Legal Project Leads) and Rebecca MacKinnon (Public Project
> > > > Lead) for their wonderful work and effort on this project.
> > > >
> > > > Please feel free to review, comment, and make suggestions to
> things
> > > > that will help the licenses comply with Hong Kong law. The role
> of
> > > > the discussion is to start the public debate and to make the
> least
> > > > amount of changes necessary to bring the license into accord
> with
> > > > Hong Kong law. Also, please feel free to ask general questions
> about
> > > > the Creative Commons licenses in the cc-mailing list:
> > > > _http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/cc-licenses_
> > > >
> > > > Part of the fun of this discussion will be, I hope, that we get
> to
> > > > compare the quirks and eccentricities of our respective nations'
> > > > copyright laws.
> > > >
> > > > We expect the archived discussions to serve as a history of this
> > > > experience. That way, your input will continue be useful to
> anyone
> > > > from any country even after the discussion for Hong Kong is
> > completed.
> > > >
> > > > I am very much looking forward to a fruitful and open
> discussion!
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much.
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > > Catharina
> > > >
> > > > ..
> > > >
> >
> ............................................................................
> > > > Dr. Catharina Maracke
> > > > Director, Creative Commons International
> > > > Gipsstrasse 12
> > > > 10119 Berlin
> > > > Phone: +49-30-28 09 39 09
> > > > Fax: +49-30-28 09 39 10
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rebecca MacKinnon
> > > > Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
> > > > University of Hong Kong ( http://jmsc.hku.hk)
> > > > E-mail: rmack at hku.hk <mailto:rmack at hku.hk> | Tel: +852-2219-4005
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > University of Hong Kong (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
> > E-mail: rmack at hku.hk | Tel: +852-2219-4005
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Rebecca MacKinnon
Assistant Professor, Journalism & Media Studies Ctr.
University of Hong Kong (http://jmsc.hku.hk)
E-mail: rmack at hku.hk | Tel: +852-2219-4005
Blog: http://RConversation.blogs.com
Co-founder: http://GlobalVoicesOnline.org
"The world is talking. Are you listening?"
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