[Cc-hk] discovered a suspected case of a CC-licensed work on Wikipedia being trotted by local Citibank Ads
Haggen So
haggenso at gmail.com
Sun Dec 14 23:23:57 EST 2008
Sorry with no updates, I have replied his second letter and he thanked
Charles and Zunix for the contributions in discussion.
Though we cannot provide legal advice, I will discuss with him and see if
there are anything that CCHK can help.
Haggen
2008/12/10 Charles Mok <charlespmok at gmail.com>
> That's great! In good hands...
>
>
> 2008/12/10 Haggen So <haggenso at gmail.com>
>
> I will make a reply, but incidentally, I will meet with Yuyu tonight
>> because he needed to do a mock interview for his studies. We will come up
>> with a co-ordinated response.
>>
>> Haggen
>>
>> 2008/12/10 Charles Mok <charlespmok at gmail.com>
>>
>> In any case we should make a courtesy reply to him, i think.
>>>
>>> 2008/12/10 Zunix Ling <zunix.ling at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Yea, Software Freedom Law Center is quite famous with lot of heavy weigh
>>>> person to hold it.I also remember what has been done by public patent
>>>> that open source our fat32 patient registration. There are helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> zunix
>>>>
>>>> Haggen So Ìáµ½:
>>>> > Zunix,
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes, The short version of the disclaimer in CCHK licences stated:
>>>> >
>>>> > Creative Commons is not a law firm and does not provide legal
>>>> > services. Distributing of, displaying of, or linking to this Commons
>>>> > Deed does not create an attorney-client relationship.
>>>> >
>>>> > Creative Commons²»ÊÇ·¨ÂÉÊÂÕËù£¬Ò಻Ìṩ·¨ÂÉ·þÕ¡£·Ö°l¡¢Õ¹Ê¾»òßB½Yµ½ÊÚ
>>>> > àËÕÂK²»®aÉúÂɺͿÍôµÄêPS¡£
>>>> >
>>>> > So technically we don't really have any responsibilities. It is,
>>>> > however, possible for us to actively discuss the issue (e.g. put an
>>>> > article up in our official site) and recommend legal services if we
>>>> > can find some friendly allies.
>>>> >
>>>> > On the other hand, dual licensing may not be a total bad news. The
>>>> > organisation responsible for GFDL is FSF (Free Software Foundation).
>>>> > They have recently found the Software Freedom Law Center
>>>> > (http://www.softwarefreedom.org/), and this center will give legal
>>>> > assistance.
>>>> >
>>>> > Haggen
>>>> >
>>>> > P.S. I did receive the same email in the CCHK account, just haven't
>>>> > got time to deal with it. Sorry.
>>>> >
>>>> > 2008/12/10 Zunix Ling <zunix.ling at gmail.com <mailto:
>>>> zunix.ling at gmail.com>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Does not want to comment too much on license matter, but as
>>>> Charles
>>>> > point out. And I have to say, the dual-licensing in this case seem
>>>> > complicated by itself to enforce due to costing and legal
>>>> foundation.
>>>> > There are many issues. I think CCHK organization just like a
>>>> > certification or standard holder. Administration and enforcement
>>>> > is not
>>>> > under it's scope. am I right?
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> >
>>>> > zunix
>>>> >
>>>> > Charles Mok Ìáµ½:
>>>> > > I think we should be very careful about the claim. CCHK being
>>>> > not even
>>>> > > an organization may not be in the right position to do much
>>>> beyond
>>>> > > facilitating the license. It should be up to the claimant to
>>>> > take his
>>>> > > own action. At this stage, I do not see that CCHK should take
>>>> side.
>>>> > > Plus, the license was is used is not CCHK license but another
>>>> > version.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Others pls comment....
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 2008/12/10 Jack Qiu <jacklqiu at gmail.com
>>>> > <mailto:jacklqiu at gmail.com> <mailto:jacklqiu at gmail.com
>>>> > <mailto:jacklqiu at gmail.com>>>
>>>> > >
>>>> > > This can probably be a good opportunity for public education. I
>>>> > > will, and think all CCHK members should, give this Xavier all
>>>> our
>>>> > > support. That is, of course, if there is enough evidence to
>>>> > > establish the case and we have good confidence that we can nail
>>>> > > down City Bank.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Can some members of our legal team give some advice? I'd also
>>>> like
>>>> > > to hear from Rebecca, Charles, Pindar and everyone.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > jack
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 2008/12/9 Jerry~Yuyu <jerry.tschan.yu <http://jerry.tschan.yu>
>>>> > > <http://jerry.tschan.yu>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>
>>>> > <http://gmail.com>>
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Halo all
>>>> > >
>>>> > > We found the message that ask for our help
>>>> > > in our spam folder, unfortunately
>>>> > >
>>>> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> > > From: *Xavier Fung* <xavier114fch at gmail.com
>>>> > <mailto:xavier114fch at gmail.com>
>>>> > > <mailto:xavier114fch at gmail.com <mailto:xavier114fch at gmail.com
>>>> >>>
>>>> > > Date: 2008/12/8
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>>>> > > <mailto:wikimedia.hong.kong at gmail.com
>>>> > <mailto:wikimedia.hong.kong at gmail.com>>
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
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>>>> > > ÙFþÓûºÍ±¾È˽j£¬ÕÒÔëà]£¨xavier114fch at gmail.com
>>>> > <mailto:xavier114fch at gmail.com>
>>>> > > <mailto:xavier114fch at gmail.com <mailto:
>>>> > xavier114fch at gmail.com>>£©¡¢¾S»ùÓÃôí£¨User:
>>>> > > Xavier114fch£©»òëÔ£¨6028 9641£¬ÍíÁùráᣩ֪ͨ¡£
>>>> > >
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>>>> > >
>>>> > > Xavier Fung
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > Wikimedia Hong Kong
>>>> > > the local chapter of Wikimedia in HKSAR
>>>> > > http://wikimediahk.org <http://wikimediahk.org/>
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan
>>>> > > Jerry~ÓêÓê
>>>> > > User:Yuyu
>>>> > > http://jeromyu.info
>>>> > > MSN: jeromyuchan at msn.com <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com>
>>>> > <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com>>
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Deputy President
>>>> > > Wikimedia Hong Kong
>>>> > > http://www.wikimediahk.org
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Tel: +852 9279 1601
>>>> > > Laudamus quae laudentur
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 23:19, Charles Mok
>>>> > > <charlespmok at gmail.com <mailto:charlespmok at gmail.com>
>>>> > <mailto:charlespmok at gmail.com <mailto:charlespmok at gmail.com>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Somehow I cannot go to the link below....very slow...
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Jerry~Yuyu
>>>> > > <jerry.tschan.yu <http://jerry.tschan.yu>
>>>> > <http://jerry.tschan.yu>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>
>>>> > > <http://gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Halo all
>>>> > >
>>>> > > As my fellow Chapter broad member discovered
>>>> > >
>>>> > > a Local Chinese wikipedian had stated on his user
>>>> > > page, claiming that his CC-licensed MTR maps being
>>>> > > trotted by Citibank's Advertisements
>>>> > >
>>>> > > More details can be found on this page on zh.wikipedia
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>> http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Xavier114fch/%E4%BB%A5CC%E6%A2%9D%E6%AC%BE%E7%99%BC%E4%BD%88%E7%9A%84%E8%B7%AF%E7%B7%9A%E5%9C%96%E8%A2%AB%E5%BB%A3%E5%91%8A%E6%8C%AA%E7%94%A8
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On the page, the user stated that he had sent e-mails
>>>> > > to WMHK & CCHK. We had not receive such e-mail at the
>>>> > > moment, and I wonder if his mail had reached CCHK.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > As the user is not a registered member of our chapter,
>>>> > > so most of our broad member intend to handle this
>>>> > > matter personally at this moment, unless this user
>>>> > > identify himself via register as a chapter member.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I wonder if any of you had any idea to help him in
>>>> > > this stage
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan
>>>> > > Jerry~ÓêÓê
>>>> > > User:Yuyu
>>>> > > http://jeromyu.info
>>>> > > MSN: jeromyuchan at msn.com <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com>
>>>> > <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com <mailto:jeromyuchan at msn.com>>
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Deputy President
>>>> > > Wikimedia Hong Kong
>>>> > > http://www.wikimediahk.org
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Tel: +852 9279 1601
>>>> > > Laudamus quae laudentur
>>>> > >
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>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
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>>>> > <http://charlesmok.blogspot.com>
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>>>> > >
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>>>> > > Jack Linchuan Qiu, Ph.D.
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